Combines Hard thresh wheat

[Rolf]

G'Day Dave I would recommend that you install as many filler bars into the bottom section of the concave as is needed! I have had up to 6 filler bars in when I was in linseed and canary seed, I have four in at the moment for our wheat as it's a drought here and not much material going through machine so Im trying to hold some grain and straw on the concave to help thresh the grain that I have got!!!! (20 Ha out of 400 Ha have got 4-4.5 ton of grain!!! all done for this year!!!!!) Give the filler bars ago they really do help in cleaning up the sample! If you get it threshed right the cleaning is a lot easier set up. Rolf PS: let us know if you find any Improvement!

 

[Dave]

Rolf,

 

[Rolf]

G'Day Dave I'm no expert on soybeans! But I think the vanes are good enough to spread the chaff 20+ft, you could try the vane extensions that I have seen on this board recently!! (Could some one repost that manufactures web page please!!) they would certainly spread it more. Going to the twin spreaders in my mine only adds complexity! I like the KISS principal! Rolf

 

[Rolf]

G'Day Dave You might want to check that the front of the concave is down to 3 mm or under! you should then be able to get away with 3 or 4 filler bars. As you might guess the more fillers you have in the less open area you have in the concave therefore the grain has that little bit less time to separate from the head and straw and get outside the cage. The other side of this augment is that you have a nice soft grain on grain threshing action which in turn can give you a very high quality sample as you will have very little cracked grain! We have some pretty tough wheat down here as well and Dan Hurtts idea of closing down the front of the concave in small grains has made a big difference, I'm thinking of getting ours down to 1 mm gap at front when back top of concave touches the highest rotor bar. We can have some fun in getting the leathery pods of off lentils and trying not to crack or split the grain!!! Ho! what fun that can be!!!!! (We got second place at the Royal Melbourne Ag Show a couple of years ago! with a sample of lentils, another Gleaner Rotary one it) We also have the 1_2 inch (12 mm) forward rasp bars in the thresher section (over concave) and 3_4 forward rasp bars over rest of rotor. See how you go, and please let's us know if you have any success! Rolf

 

[Oedie86]

Hello, I am running a late model (P3) R40 with the standard rotor set up as far as the reverse and forwards are concerned. I am really anxious to get this thing straightened out. Our first time out this year with our new machine was not impressive. We are cutting soft red winter wheat. I couldn't believe our slow ground speed (1.5) and the nasty sample. The fastest we have ever pushed the machine is 2.7 with a 315' bolted up flex. We also experienced a feeding problem with our head. Meanwhile our straw spreader light stayed on constantly and we had a flickering engine air filter light, all of this amongst scattered groans from the rotor. The feeding problem: there seems to be a dead zone between the fingers on the auger and the feeder house chains. We removed a piece of galvanized from the right hand side of the feeder house opening on the head (it was apparently there to neck down the larger opening for a 6 or 7). The RED neighbor said his machines can be adjusted to lower the feeder house chains which he recomended and we tried by lowering the front drum to its lowest slot. It seemed to help minimally. He even told us that our rotor had more capacity and that "This thing should flat a$$ boogie." I was curious what speed you run your rotor at. I am running the rotor around 750 rpm. It was necessary to slow it down this much from the book's 900 to stop cracking. With the sample I am getting, I would think the reversers would be necessary, because everything is getting stripped from the head, but the berries are not being romoved from the coatings_chaff. We blew out the outer air filter but the light still flickers. Do you think that there could be an electrical problem or does it just need new filtersIJ We only have the light flicker at full throttle and under a load. Also what do you have your wind set atIJ We started at spec 5 and are now at about 5 3_4. We have tailings to acc. rolls. Do you have returns to cylinderIJ We also have small (5") pieces of straw in the sample. Any help is appreciated on tackling any of my many problems. If you cannot help, maybe you could direct me to a more knowledgable Gleaner Guru. Thank you for your time. Ryan

 

[Oedie86]

Also what hyper mods are safe to do for wheat. It sounds like most of them are for the corn_bean oriented machineIJ Thanks again. Ryan

 

[Blue]

I can't help as I just left the red rotor to solve some of the problems you mentioned (hard thresh wheat etc) . I would start a new thread at the top and maybe you would get more responses. later

 

[Ed_Boysun]

It ain't gonna thresh or clean if it's not feeding evenly. Is the header auger properly adjusted for height and foreandaftIJ Feeder house shocks should also be considered. The flighting on the table auger should be checked to make sure that it hasn't tipped back . If the edges are rounded you might consider squaring them with a grinder. Once it's feeding evenly then you'll have to check the concave for proper clearance and also make sure it's level. Some filler bars may have to be added but the return to cylinder is almost a necessity. 850 to 900 RPM on the rotor is where I run mine but I run the air nearly wide open. Make sure the accelerator rolls are good, set the bottom sieve about a 1_4 and open the chaffer wider to control any being blown over. A Gleaner in wheat should never have more than .2% dockage. If you are getting straw in the sample check and make sure that you don't have straw sticks lodged somewhere under the sieves and also check the inspection holes on the sides to make sure that the air throats don't have something in them. Ed in MT

 

[Oedie86]

Hello Ed, What is the purpose of feeder house shocks, and is your machine hyperizedIJ Thanks again, Ryan.

 

[Ed_Boysun]

Ryan, the shocks keep the feed chain drums from hopping. I run a '98 R72 in strictly wheat. 3_4" bars over the concaves. 4 reverse bars in the seperator. I put extended bar paddles on the end of the rotor and that's the extent of the hyperizing. When I mentioned to the dealer that I was thinking of running 1_2" bars in the thresher section and getting rid of the reversers he asked me why. The capacity of the machine is great, it threshes perfectly, cleans a great sample, and losses are next to nothing. I couldn't answer him so I left it as is. Ed in Montana