Combines Heard a good one at the FPS in Amana today

[JD9750]

Bullet proof from whatIJlets go get a ied(the type that is used to kill US soliders and run a red combine over and see if it can with stand the blast

 

[spiff]

WOW you John Deere guys are unbeliveable IH has had the rotor since 1977 it took johnny untill now to figure this out,If you can look back to the early 1990 sale lit on the 9500 and 9600 and see how it puts down the rotor,but now that you have it its the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[silver_tech]

I like you spiff, I like you alot you can be my bud anyday. I prefer silver but must add the IH is a good machine also. I think when you paint something green you probably want to hide it in the weeds, coincidence.

 

[ihc_afc]

OK JD9750, let me explain it out. 1st, it is a joke intended to be in fun and funny. 2nd, if you'd get your green underpants unstuck from that cylinder accellerator thingy in front of your alleged rotor, you would understand the 1st statement. 3rd and final, it means "bullet proof" as in we have had these things "proven" since 1977 and they are pretty darn good. It is also an old saying that if something is "Bullet Proof" that it is pretty good and proven. Have a great day!!

 

[FarmBuddy]

I suppose JD recognizes that transition from convential cylinder, to STS Single Tine Separator, to "Bullet Rotor" will provide a smooth transition to "Bi-Rotor" technology eventually. It just takes some time to get there and the current STS has to run its ten year course.

 

[MostlyGreen]

Hey FarmBuddy, I just finally got around to reading "Dream Reaper" from cover to cover (I just skimmed through it in the past)! Do you honestly, in your heart, feel that Deere will eventually proceed with the Bi-Rotor conceptIJ I hope so! MG

 

[MostlyGreen]

Actually, I have a sales brochure for the 9000 series, circa 1998, (I collect farm equipment brochures) and I see NOTHING "dissing" the rotaries; - perhaps what you're referring to would be in another piece of sales literatureIJ As far as the bullet rotor is concerned, I think it looks more like the ORIGINAl New Holland rotor (circa 1975) than the ORIGINAl Axial-Flow rotor, which was introduced a year or two later than the New Holland! Either way, there is no denying that the STS is, in fact, a rotary combine, despite whatever Deere and Company may wish to call it! ;-) MG

 

[FarmBuddy]

It's hard to say for certain. But I do think there are many smart people working for Deere who will eventually move it into production. They were definitely impressed witht he XBR2 back in the fall of 1994 when we demoed it to them. But they were also at least three years into the development of their STS program at that time, so they probably also felt somewhat compelled to buy the Bi-Rotor technology to keep it from competing against their STS machines. The rotating concave does a lot to improve centrifugal force since the crop has mat speed plus concave speed. Fc increases exponentially with V - velocity. Also provides 100% even wear, and both the rotor and concave pull material into the threshing area. JD is already using the overhead air intake principle on their 60 Series STS, so that part has been adopted by JD. The dual path grain elevator system also was a beautiful system, and eliminated a lot of moving parts, sprockets and reduced grain damage. It is hard to image that system not being adopted eventually. JD has not adopted the lateral distributor for side slopes, probably because they have already designed and invested in the side hill combine technology and would not want to draw away from sales of the $35,000 Sidehill option. The VPS Versatile Power System aspect where one power unit could be used to plant, spray and harvest is a pretty radical step forward. It would be well received by farmers, but not in the best interest of a major manufacturer who likes to sell a lot of engines, cabs, power trains, tires, transmissions, etc. On the otherhand, having the planter, spray boom and header all mounted up front, in the same relation to the cab, GPS antenna, and drive wheels would make auto guidance so much easier and repeatable. I think eventually most farm equipment will go this direction, but not until another outside manufacturer forces movement in this direction. Adopting the CHIS standard will help accomplish this by 2020.

 

[Big_Al]

I have the brocuhres that Deere gave to their sales people to slam the rotorary combine. One of the items was a rotor will thresh much cleaner Deere's answer was yes but only in perfect conditions a walker will thresh in all conditions. Walkers are proven technology rotors are still unproven. Deere put out this BS because they did not have a rotary at that time and you green guys ate it up like dime store candy. Spiff is right it is never a great idea until Deere comes up with it. like what about that great 8850 four wheel drive tractor they sucked you Deere guys into buying. Now they sell them by the pound lOl