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T__langan

Guest
Try removing the reverse bars and leaving that spot blank. Or add a "disrupter" in each blank spot to tear wads apart. Works well for us! Tom langan
 

augerhead

Guest
We have the reverser bars on the third row toward the discharge end like the old ones came out. Still will the F concave bar work with all the bar in place and no reverser bars at allIJIJ and what problems would this causeIJ The second thought I had, you talk about the disrupters on the rotor,what if you made them to fit the seperator grate and used all forward bars. There is something like that for the CaseIH combines that fit in the cage. Also what is the idea of removing the bars on the rotorIJ We have had a M2 and a l2 Gleaner but this R50 is a together differant but really like it so far ,problem is local dealer that we bought it from says just set it the way the book says ,but for this unit the book is pretty short on ideas.
 

T__langan

Guest
One of the ideas of the Hyper process is to create a high-low cylinder bar arrangement. This, in combination with the F2 bar in the belly, allows the crop to get "tripped up" (by the F2 bar) and expand (with the low or removed cyl. bars). This will allow trapped grain to be separated. The rotor arrangement that we currently run in our R52 is pictured on the Hyper Mod site. We have not experienced any troubles after two seasons and have greatly reduced crop loss. As for the disrupters - I believe Rolf Hedt has tried the "through the cage" disrupters with success. I'm skeptical of trying them in our wetter conditions - seems like they would use hp by preventing good flow through the rotor. Then again, the CaseIH guys seem to like them! Make some, give'em a try and let us know how they work out. That's exactly how all these mods have made their way into many, many Gleaners! Tom langan
 

NDDan

Guest
What is different about the Trimpe barsIJ Is there a larger than 3_4" distance between the raspsIJ The Gleaner wide rasp are 3_4" and narrow rasp are 1_2". Are they the narrow rasp with every other rasp removedIJ Do they maintain the crown halfway threw the raspIJ Do they make their own version of extended bar paddle comboIJ If I were you I would go for the stationary rasp bar with all forward bars or reverse bars missing. You can allways slip the reverse back in easy enough. Thanks for any info you can add.
 

augerhead

Guest
The Trimpe bars are stock that Trimpe cut every other tooth out and than hard lays the other teeth with I think tungsten , the bar come in weight match set. The frist set we got from them was for a M2 that I think we run for about 15 or 16 years. Our R50 needed bars for wheat so we went with Trimpe bars in it and I am very happy with them ,before fall going to add a set of Trimpe discharge bars_paddles also that are also hard surfaced. Trimpe can also hard surface helical bars,rebuild grates. The cylinder bars are not pretty but will they get with it and a lot easier on parts too! Cheaper too around $27.00 each exchange. (Trimpe Cylinder Bars 1-812-522-1395 Seymore Ind.)
 

NDDan

Guest
So I imagine your R50 still had the narrow rasp bars (1_2" between rasps). You sent them to Trimpe and they cut out every other rasp and hard surfaced the remaining ones. That would give you 1" between the rasps. Did that work in your wheat or am I missing something. I like the idea of wider rasps on the seperator side. Even wider than the 3_4" that we have on all our machines. I made up a complete cylinder one time with 1.5" between rasps. I thought that would realy keep the edible beans moving threw at super slow cylinder speeds in damp conditions. It didn't seem to help at all in that crop condition so we finally come up with the rotor sweeps. I'll maybe try them very wide rasps in another crop sometime. Damp edible bean straw is just so hard to flow around rotor and rely only on angle of rasp and helicals to keep it going. Thanks for info.
 

augerhead

Guest
Yes we had the narrow spaced bars and it made them one inch spacing, used on the whole rotor. In wheat they worked great moved the straw right thru ,can't wait to try in corn or soybeans. Going to add Trimpe discharge paddles_bars to the end. As far as edible beans give Trimpe a call to ansewer your questions better.
 

NDDan

Guest
Thanks, I found another post that describes them as everyother rasp cut to half height or so. Sounds like a very cool bar. Catch ya later