Combines Is John Deere Falling BehindIJ

[thud]

Size doesnt matter!!, its how you use it that counts. We run a Gleaner and if you park it beside a similar CAPACITY Deere or Case machine its looks undersized. Dont let physical size fool you, sheet metal can really buff up a machine.

 

[Old_Pokey]

No, you're not alone in your line of thinking. I cant help but wonder how happy some the owners of these giants are going to be once warranty runs out. I'm getting a little concerned with the way our choices are being taken away from us now. We are slowly being forced to conform to the way wall street and the government want us to farm. Some of us dont want a machine we cant repair in the field without a million dollar laptop computer. And anybody that raises a crop that is of small market are being left out of the equipment developement decisions. As far as Deere falling behind, I doubt it.

 

[mo_farm]

I have seen the 590 up close and its not the sheet metal that makes it look big, it IS big. Its massive from the front to thr back, the sieves are huge the bin loadind and unlosding augers are huge. I really think this combine is really built for the praires out in the western US and up in Canada where the fields are big and relativelly flat, probally work good down in South America to. lexion probally brought it to the FPS just to show it off. Even though I could never afford or need a combine that big it was worth the trip just to see it. Anyone know what it weighsIJ

 

[greeneater]

Obviously, it isn't for everybody, you better have some pretty tough crops to justify having it. ya, it is huge, but the machine is pretty much the same size as it's little brother, the 480, only a bigger grain elevator, and unload auger, and of course, some more ponies. as far as weight, i imagine it is pushing 40,000 lbs, because the 480r is around 35,000 lbs. It really puzzles me why they didn't make the 590 available on tracks, being it is the heaviest combine out there. The tracks are one of the biggest selling points to me

 

[Old_Pokey]

I'm guessing the steering differential transmission for running tracks on something that heavy would not only cost an unbelievable amount more, but would also add so much weight to an already heavy machine. If you do much road travel, the track replacement cost alone would turn away many potential owners, much less the undercarriage maintenence. Do you farm in an area that would make tracks a benifitIJ If so, or even if you are just interested in track machines, email me. I'd like to visit with you a bit about tracks. I have an experimental sprayer chassis that I built on tracks. It is just a prototype test machine, but I would send you pictures if you'd like.

 

[dakota]

hmmh, .... where do I start hereIJ I don't know if you have a 12row corn head to your 9600. We have 9650 walkers. We used to have 9500s and 9610s years ago, than had a season with STS's, two seasons with lexions and went back to the proven walkers. The 9650 pushes the 12row 4mph in 230 bu corn. How much faster would you like to goIJ The 9650STS doesn't do any more but has more hp, is a lot thirstier and costs more. The 9750 would probably go a mile faster. The 9860, I don't know. How fast can you pick corn doing a decent jobIJ No combine is able to carry a 16row head yet, or it would be made. How many trucks and graincarts would you need to utilize itIJ How big is a lexion reallyIJ HP doesn't mean anything. A 470R does not have any more capacity than a 9650. I have tried it too many times. JD falling behindIJ How would you measure thatIJ At the moment they offer the widest choice of combines and other farm equipment, without utilizing their birotor rights. I am not really a JD fan. I have experienced a lot of the JD people as very arrogant and not listening to customers at all. In my opinion they only do what the competition forces them to do to keep the market and the competition is rather sorry in marketing and often even the products. I am able to satisfy any reasonable customer with a Deere and have access to the densest dealer network. Gadgets and gismosIJ How much more money do you make with a moisture tester on your combineIJ I have not found one yet, that really saves the trip to the elevator. I have not found anyone yet, that can prove, that his yieldmaping increased his profit, or was even able to gain more than it cost him. This week I had to replace two printed boards on a combine for over $1000. Your 9600 doesn't have those, but does just as good a job.

 

[dakota]

I have to revise my statement. Claas offers a 16 row cornhead now.

 

[mx270]

Yes Thats a great point check out the total cleaning area on that cat it actually has less than the AFX 8010 or so i have seen by comparing specs i have enough to justify a 16 row but my current set up would need some adjustments made to keep up with it so i will stick with 2 AFX 8010s and the 9760 deere

 

[Big_Green]

Hey nice to hear everyones thoughts, I am really happy with the 9600 and it will do way more than we need it to, we have a 930 platform for wheat and milo and have only cut corn once with it, had a 893 on it, we thought it was a corn eaten machine!!

 

[land_Surfer]

Dakota, yield mapping is one of the most cost effective management tools a farming operation can invest in. Yield mapping has allowed my operation to analyze further the effects of tiling and drainage, side-by-side yield and chem._fert. trials, zone ID and management, etc. Each on of those items on their own are capable of paying (saving) for yield mapping and a lot more in the long-run. It all has to do with how intensively, or well, the data is used.