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[NHD]

JD is te biggest copy cat or idea robber of all. Quit being critical! Got something positive bring it up. Otherwise put on yourgreen outfit an go advertise for JD.

 

[deereslayer]

at least cat will pay for the ideas they use. good ol' john deere has a tendencey to borrow with out compensation, otherwise know as stealing. all of the major company's have other business entities making their products for them. i.e. deere and case both have stacking tool bars that are made by orthman and painted to the particulat brands color, the quick hitchs on most tractor are also made by the same orthman. most all of the other companies just dont make public the lineage of the equipment they produce.

 

[nucky]

Go back to your green page. Try and think of what john deere actually invented. The steel plow. Everything elese that has been put out was simply because john deere knew how to market the equipment. Deere is a excellent marketing company, not much for inventions.

 

[SilverTurnedGreen]

Your comments aren't entirely fair, but they're close! CAT does provide certain technologies, such as there Mobil-Trac system, to the lexion combine, in addition to thier engines. If you go to the AGCO website and select the Challenger product line, you'll notice that the equipment is labelled "Challenger" and NOT CAT, although (I believe) the powered equipment (i.e. tractors, swathers, etc.) are labelled "Powered by CAT". Some naysayers label Deere as a marketing company, but they fail to notice that Deere does in fact build most of thier own engines and powertrain components, in addition to powertrain components for competitive AG-manufacturers, including AGCO. CAT will, in turn, start to provide more technologies to AGCO, so in essence you'll probably see more CAT components in AG products than ever before. I think the AGCO_CAT venture is a good thing, and I think it will make Deere finally "sit-up and pay attention" to an impending, serious competitor. Until now, Deere has had little serious competition, because Deere is an excellent marketing company, but also an excellent innovator.

 

[MIKE]

First of all I appreciate all of your honest opinions and thoughts. And secondly, I don't know why all of you thought I was a JOHN DEERE nut. I think all of the companies have some really great things and I just used the 9750 as an example. Anyways thanks and good luck with everything. MIKE

 

[TJ]

Mike, This board and most Ag Talk boards are way more critical of John Deere. It must be the price to pay for being the market leader since 1964 in Farm Machinery Sales in North America. Did Deere really invent ROPS and lock and load Insecticide, only to forget the patent after a few yearsIJIJ

 

[UpFr]

TJ- ROPS is the collective efforts of many folks in the ag industry to reduce serious injury and possibly death in the case of a tractor roll-over. Please don't pick on Deere for for that example. Try something like turret unloading augers for combine grain tanks (amazingly similar to what Massey had prior to Deere offering this feature).

 

[jd9750]

How about ROll GARD,POwershift,Sound-Gard Body and Caster-Action MFWD are a few things that John Deere innovated.

 

[meadowgreen]

Best not give credit to JD for powershift. Had a Ford 6000 select-o-speed before Deere PS. Do a little investigating on where engineer was employed prior to JD. Rumors abound. NAW!

 

[SilverTurnedGreen]

I serviced a'many Ford Select-O-Speed's in my younger days, and they share NO familiarity with the Deere Powershift concept, so I think the "migrating engineer" story might just be that; - a story!