I appreciate you letting me know about the 230, but we're in Southeast Missouri in the hills, I don't think it would work too good, besides we typically only have 80-100 acres of wheat and then a bunch of beans, so I don't think it would pencil out. The reason for buying the 9600 is because the 9500's are bringing more money, for the price I was able to get the 9600 in top shape and have room to grow in the next few years. Around here I know we can't get bye with a 30' but a 25' is possible. I thought I could run my 20' for a couple of years and then trade.