Combines long shoe

Tom_Russell

Guest
I am surprised you havent received any replies, and I can't comment because I dont have a long shoe model. I kind of assumed there would be some strong feelings about the subject.
 

rforro

Guest
I had a 1990 R50, if you would get into good corn, 175 plus bushels you would have to slow down to 4 mph or else it would go over shoe (at times). I now have a 1996 R52, with this machine I can not put corn over the shoe at 5 mph. Both machines are stock.
 

hald

Guest
OK here it comes: The long shoe sucks! This is what happens with improvements that are not field tested by the company. This new shoe just doesn't fit in the combine: what shall we doIJ lets lift the rear of the shoe too clear the rear axel,now we have to increase fan speed,but we've already restricted air outlet by lifting shoe. This of course is fixed by lifting straw (chaff) spreader. Final result; no more screns in shoe,lousy spread pattern,poor sample in bin. surely there was a better solution to be had.
 

Tom_Russell

Guest
Is this one of those hot new ideas the marketing department comes up with to keep ahead of new models from the competitionIJ I was an engineer with a consumer products manufacturer and believe me it happens all the time. Tom in MN
 

John

Guest
Reason for the problem is called "Deutz". The N5 and R5 have more shoe capacity than an R50. Agco expanded the capacity of the R52 back to the AC standards. Got this directly from AC, DA, and Agco literature on machine sizes. Deutz destroyed Allis Chalmers and almost Gleaner before Agco got them. Can't give away a Deutz Gleaner in this area, they sit on dealer lots for years and the AC N's and R's and Agco's move quickly.