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tbran

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This (extended bars) is what started the improvements in Gleaner rotary performance. They are standard equipment now - thanks to Dan Hurtt! The extended bars keep material, especially tough crops such as green stem soybeans moving through the cylinder to the discharge area. The origional style paddles tried to discharge material too soon.
 

mo

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I run them and they seem to work well. Mine are chromed but the chrome wears off the leading edge of the paddle leaving ( edge which will wedge and not work as well. I'm considering powder or hardsurface rod on that leading edge to keep an agressive low power use paddle.
 

Bob_l

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Thanks guys.....moonshine, should I go ahead and hard surface the edges before I run themIJ The only other change I made was to extend the last helical into the discharge area hoping that would help also: going by the info on the mods page. I run 3 62's in sometimes green stem soybeans, I'll try anything to help get rid of the "constipation" in the cylinder if you know what I mean. Thanks again fellows! Great site
 

NDDan

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If you ever stoped harvesting earlier than you wanted or started later than you thought you should than you need them. Not to mention tougher conditions and slower cylinder speeds. I can't think of a single situation where they aren't a must have. We discovered how much they help in 1996 and have not allowed a machine threw our shop since without them. All machines around hear had them installled by 1998 but we still do at least a couple more machines a year. Them machines that still need them come into our area from far away. It bothers me to think so many Gleaners are still poking along in them tougher conditions without the extended bars. I don't know where the idea of extended bars come from but I first heard of it from a custom operator Chad Haugen. We began just cutting and welding on a piece of cylinder bar to existing one (similiar to how Gleaner ended up doing it). Then we talked to another custom operator (Kasprick I believe) and he told use how he is doing the extending. He was cutting away enough discharge bar so he could weld the extra length of bar to the cut away discharge paddle. Then we had loewen over to copy that and get them out all over the world. I believe one step better is to run the full length rasp on every other location along with top helical extended into discharge. You see it takes a combination of the proper angle of rasp along with the helical to keep material moving. We are starting to see more even wear across the chopper with this setup. I would say Moonshine is surely right about keeping a square edge on discharge blade and keeping them running 90 degrees to straw. I believe the full length rasp is helping with the discharge kind of like square discharge paddles. St. John welding is running the full length bar setup also with great results. Here is one heck of a good idea to do while you are at it. Install the heavy flat washers that are used next to gussets at all 16 locations of the last two cylinder heads. They go between the lock washer and cylinder head. That will greatly reduce the chance of lock and nut pulling threw head when it loosens a bit or gets clobbered a good one. Not good to lose a cylinder bar or discharge paddle so be sure you do this job right. Oh and thanks back to Tbran and brother Tom for they made the noise at the big Pow Wows to get these improvment made during assembly. Them guys are still working darn hard at getting some more improvements in place. Thanks to Gleaner also for giving us the outstanding base product. Sorry for being so long. Good day