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[CORNKING]

Thanks Bob, Some people just dont get it Deere pushes the rotor, the dealer pushes the rotor, the farmer that owns them push the rotor, the elevaters that buy the corn pushes the rotor, I guess the only thing that I have heard in favor of the walker is long straw but I think I have made up my mind no outdated ratling walkers for me. I tryed telling this very young fellows that corn is king and they choose not to listen. I guess you can lead a duck to water but you can not make them drink.

 

[MostlyGreen]

Hello Bob, I'd be happy to explain Deere's theory of economics concerning thier combine production in the North American market, as explained to me when I took a plant tour last year. At THAT time, rotary vs. conventional production was roughly 19 to 1, meaning that the plant was producing 19 rotaries for every conventional being built. The day I was there, only 2 conventionals were anywhere on the line, and our tour guide explained that, at different phases of production, the line had to be stopped for "fixture changes" from rotary to conventional production, then back to rotary. Even at that time, our guide was "hinting" that Deere was "in the works" to eliminating this problem, although he didn't go into any great detail. He did state, however, that producing both technologies simultaneously impeded production. I'm not doubting that far, far more rotaries are being sold than conventionals, nor am I disputing that the STS's have greater capacity in almost All crops (not just corn),nor am I disputing that there's a lot of corn being grown throughout the United States. I'm merely stating combine design and production does NOT entirely revolve around corn. Western Canada is predominently wheat and other cereals, while in my region (southwestern Ontario) we have an even mix. STS's seem to "shine" in most crops, NOT JUST CORN!

 

[bob]

MG, you are almost thereIJ No quite but close and I commend you for the amount of acumen you possess! Inside the USA, yellow field corn is the deciding factor as to how the base combine is built. To deny that is like saying all automobiles manufactored inside the USA are designed to handle snow covered road conditions as their n1 use which is obviously not the case. Those conditions are addressed with options and such but the base design is made to handle and perform best when considering normal road conditions, trueIJ

 

[MostlyGreen]

Hello Bob, I don't entirely agree with your logic, but we're close! ;-) I suppose corn would be a consideration from the standpoint that no other crop seemingly produces the "Bushels per acre" than corn, thus, a combine's design should accomodate features conducive to handling high volumes of clean grain, returns, etc., but there's more considerations in combine design than just corn! A better example would be Deere's adaptation of converting_altering an STS to perform better in rice; - they offer a Severe Wear" kit to the STS and call it a "Rice Special"! This probably lead to the discontinuation of the CTS, since many CTS owners seem pleased with the STS's in rice! Again, in the Eurpoean market where small grains are often harvested in higher-moisture conditions, they increased the horsepower and strengthened some of the drives and called the STS a 9880 (the same year North American farmers were buying 9750's and 9650's). All I'm saying is that I don't believe corn is the only factor when it comes to designing a combine. I think the success of the STS is on account of it's superior capacity in almost All crops; - not just corn. As in my previous post, our Canadian Prairie farmers would not look for features conducive to harvesting corn; - there must be superior capacities_capabilities for harvesting wheat in the STS's in order to entice them to buy them.

 

[deadeye]

Whats wrong with a european made conventional maybe it will be of higher quality lots of good machines made overseas we have good luck with claas and fendt

 

[MostlyGreen]

I don't think there's anything wrong with a european built combine. Many of Deere's tractors are already built in Mannheim, Germany, and they've always seemed to be well-built!

 

[kiki]

QUACK!!! QUACK!!! I'm thirsty!!!