Return is minimal maybe a half a handful at a time. We are cutting short in heavy straw. But seems like whereever you hit a sopt where the ground is shallow and the grain is short there she goes. Went last night and started in some feed barley and feeds like a champ. Just seems like the stiff wheat straw causes problems. I am not saying cylinder bars are not worn, but i have a 72 l running with her and her bars are worn and concave to cylinder is at 0 and full wide open cylinder speed with next to no crack. Also the elevator chains are snug, no crack in the barley. like i said had cylinder at about half inch and speed 850 or there abouts, any more either direction and i was a flour mill. It seems to me that the angle the feed has to flow to the cylinder is to high, the hump it goes up and over to fall into the feeder beater i mean. I have heard of guys lowering the grain pan and also installing stainless steel throat in header pan and feeder beater pan. Anyone ever heard of this and how it workedIJ I am down to abut 50 acres of wheat, rest will be barley, i guess i will just tinker with it until i figure out. Willis Kinder Bliss, Idaho