bookem, Maybe your the one who should pull his head out. Would you rather have a new model combine in 2002 that his broke down half the time or would you rather have one in 2004 that runs 14 or 16 hrs. a day without a stop. I have never know CaseIH to put a new model out before they are sure it will run, and that's just fine with me. Another thing, I agree with cutter2388. My 2388s are big enough and they do every thing I need, so why a bigger more expensive combine when we have $2.00 wheat, $1.75 corn and $4.00 dollar beans. Go figure!! K.E.