From what I've been told, the Challenger combines won't go into production for another year or so. That will give the company time to sort out the marketing details, etc. Also understand that the Challenger is going to get some more differences relative to the MF 9690 and 9790 combines which the Challengers are based on. Will also have Cat engines but performance I think will be same as or close to a Massey, which is certainly one of the top performers here in North America. Cat dealers I have talked to are anxious to get the Challenger combines and should do well with them. Interesting to hear how things are shaping up in Europe. As for straw quality, the MF rotary can produce with the greatest ease the best straw quality of any rotary in North America because it doesn't have a discharge beater drum like most other rotaries. I think it would make a great rotary for the tough conditions you have in Europe as well. Time will tell!