Combines New JD conventional comingIJ

It is that feed accelerator that beats the hell out of the crop, causing all of the grain damage. The distance between the top opening of the feederhouse and the fast system potentially causes severe damage to grain, especially dry grain. The fast system works in theory but, in the real world it causes more complications than anything, especially dry grain and high moisture plant material. The screw_auger type impeller, with two-three flights (CIH AFX rotor and Massey XP rotor),is far more efficient than the fast system.

I rather doubt it.

An accelerator in front of the cylinder and a different beater behind the cylinder would probably get the Deere lawyers working fending off a Claas suit for patent infringement. But it has happened before.

I don't think that a bigger cylinder would be the limiting factor. It would be hard to keep walkers from destroying themselves in a machine bigger than a 9650. I think that is why Deere had to go to the sts..

I really doubt it because I was told that in order to get more capacity out of that design, another walker would have to be added to the machine. This would increase the width of the combine and make it nearly impossible to go up and down the road with. I think that they have found something with the STS. later fellas. Gilly

I can't agree with that. From what I've seen, the feed accelerator works very well and doesn't crack grain. In Canada we also harvest dry peas and chickpeas, and I haven't heard an STS owner complain about splits or seed coat damage. If a guy is worried about it, it does have a two speed, and I think you can get smooth wear strips. When the goin' is tough, it still manages to feed the cylinder evenly. I've never talked to a Massey XP rotor owner, so I'll be quiet about it, but I know the Case screw_auger impellers throw everything off to one side and it forms a big rope before going in. That is why you hear that "thump,thump,thump" underneath your feet when in tough conditions operating axial-flows. That is the big elephant ear grabbing and pushing it into a wad in the transition cone. That is also why the transition cones wear out three times as fast on the left side than the right. Slug feeding never did much for seed quality. I also don't get the "the distance between the top opening of the feederhouse and the fast system" causing damage comment. The fast system is undershot. Crop comes in along the bottom of the feederhouse, goes under the accelerator beater, then onto the ramps into the cylinder. There really isn't any opening at the top, and grain can't get up there anyway.

Having run a CTS 11 for the last couple of years, it makes me wonder what this machine would be like if it were in a 9600 body instead of a 9500 body. What is a CTS classed at.... .conventional....rotary.......half breedIJ In most conditions, this combine out performs a 9600.

I think your right! I would love to see a CTS in a 9600 body size. You would get the larger clean grain elevator and start with a larger grain tank without a hopper-topper. I think that JD should really consider this as an option if it is possible. I've run both a CTS and 9600 and the CTS always out performed the 9600, even in canola and peas but you had to be running it on the edge in canola to beat the 9600, but you could do it!

Deere Europe jsut last year introduced some new combine model not in N America. http:__customer.johndeere.com_de_DE_ag_Erntemaschinen_WTSKonzept.html

sounds like the cat