Combines New rotor this fall

[john]

Sounds like you guys are just copying the massey rotor with the auger intake.Suppose they took out the beater chopper thing in middle of combine

 

[swede]

Sounds like good news;I hope it works.When I asked my dealer about it this morning,he down-played it unless it came from the official CIH website,and said they would be staying with the spec. rotor until the new combine is ready.What I'm saying is,is there a way an amateur like me can verify this easilyIJ

 

[ihc_afc]

What I just heard last Sat. from a dealer who saw the prototype up close, and talked to those who ran it last fall is as follows. 1. The new machine looks different from the outside, more like the NH pictures that are around on the net. 2. It had a 500hp engine, of what make or displacement he wasn't sure. 3. The rotor is bigger than the 2388, probably 36" or more in diameter. They didn't get to look inside the machine, but did learn that gone is the auger bed as used in the current line. Also, the rotor is hydraulically driven, and there was (at least in this proto-type) a redesigned impeller. 4. The grain tank was 500 bu. 5. It was running the new 12 row corn head in a southern Iowa field last fall, and filled that 500 bu tank in 8 minutes. 2 grain carts and 2 semis could not keep up with the thing. 6. They ran other brands in the field with it, and it ran circles around them all. The 2388 had as good a sample, but not near the capacity. The 9750 only dreamed of keeping up with this thing, and dittos for the biggest Cat. This person claimed (or at least heard) that these new models would not be introduced until the late summer of 2002. IJIJIJTime to sit back and wait until the powers that be at CaseCorp make it a realityIJIJIJ

 

[Brand]

Case isn't copying the Massey rotor by any stretch of the imagination. The auger intake comes from New Holland, which has had one (I mean two) since the first TR-70 in the mid 1970's. That's quite unfortunate, too, because if the new Case-IH is a sister to a NH combine, then it will be Gleaner for me in the future.

 

[scooter]

WhyIJ

 

[Brand]

Because I owned one NH combine, and even though it was an old TR-70, I have looked over the newer machines (up to a TR-99),and they look to still have the same amount of moving parts and look to be built the same as they were 25 years ago. The NH produced an excellent sample when it was running, but in 2000 hours of operation we fixed everything on the whole machine at least once and sometimes more. They have way too many moving parts as compared to a CIH or Gleaner, and replacing some of the belts is an all-day job. That combine ruined my appetite for NH, especially since they still make them the same. If they totally revamp the machine, then maybe it will be OK. The R Series from Gleaner has proven itself over the last decade to be a reliable and excellent performing machine. I'll still take my 2366 as long as they still make them that way, but if I see a hint of yellow on a Case IH, then I'll park silver in my shed.

 

[scooter]

Sorry you did not have good luck with NH. Guess I will agree the 70 had a few problems ( mainly the bubble up auger gear box). I ran one until 1992. Since then I have been running a 88 or 89. Totallly diffeent machines. Not a belt on that machine that takes longer than about an hour ( still long enough when you are in a hurry ). They are a lot easier than they look. I know in my area fellows are leaving gleaner. They are not having that good of luck. NH is picking up market. Really helps to have a good dealer. Thanks- just my $.02.

 

[Wind]

What you saw did exist, but there were many strictly experimental things on that machine. The reason for the high use of hydraulic driven components was that the machine was a hand built model and they did not know where some of the belts would end up (easier to reposition). That was also the reason for the high horsepower, hydraulics suck a lot of HP to run. From what I have heard, the new CNH (NH look-alike) will stick with the 30" rotor and the auger bed. That machine was a horse, just couldn't get Case management to belly up to the bar to pay.

 

[ihc_afc]

Hey, thanks for the information. They would be foolish not to build the highest capacity combine on the market. But hey, it is marketing and management that makes or breaks a company, more so than the product itself. Ala Oliver, MandM, and IHC. They had some pretty good stuff compared to the competition, and look where they are today. Merged or out of business thanks to some sloppy management decisions and poor use of revenue. Time will tell what the new machine will be.

 

[Otis]

Ha Ha Ha --- I get such a kick from screaming rumors that get BIGGER and BIGGER and BIGGER!!!! All - don't believe everything you hear. Maybe I have aquired a different hue to my preferred combine color, don't know. Hint - show me the money!