You hit the nail on the head Tbran. I just wish those coops would admidt they forward contracted there product,because they thought it was going up. Thinking they would again fill there pockets off of the farmer,like last year. And now they are hung out to dry,because we were tired of hearing there song and dance. So what if they run out we cant afford it anyway. And on your price of grain there. I went to the elevator today they are paying 2.80 for corn and 7.50 for beans,man we farmers are going to make a killing in 08. IG