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[t_leslie]

I have never seen a gleaner rotary cylinder get packed, on the inside part of the rotor.. I could see where maybe pinto bean vine could get in there and wrap up.. but the cylinder would have to be very slow for this to happen.. Ive seen small amounts of chaff and stuff stuck inside but not enough to cause the rotor to become unbalanced.. Maybe it is our dry conditions in Texas that has allowed us not to see this problem..

 

[Dan]

Don't know if Gleaner is the only one without solid (drum) rotor from plant. Don't know if Gleaner has had a solid drum rotor ever no matter if your talking conventional or rotary. The conventionals prior to middle '80's had filler irons to prevent corn cobs from getting in area behind cylinder bar and then perhaps come back out unthreshed before going over concave. Basically little to no chance of that happening on rotary for cob or whatever would have to come back out on same circle of area it went in. I suppose there is the slightest chance it could come out and not go over concave but it still has to roll the rest of the way threw cage. Even with these 25" cylinders spinning at minimum speed of 200RPM it would be very hard for any material other than dust to migrate into your area of concern. With at least two after market manufactures of solid rotors for Gleaner they can have benifits. One would be no build up of dust on back side of bars which could cause vibration at higher RPMs (say 500RPM and up) in some dust conditions. Im balance would come after a rotor shut down and usually go away with a shut down and start up or with some use (not always). First start up of year if you were using higher RPMs could require scraping buildup off back of bars. Another benifit is more rotateing weight toward OD of cylinder which would tend to give it more momentum to pull slug threw which would also reduce load on cylinder torque sensing devise. Another possible benifit is fastening cylinder bars square onto rotor as compared to Gleaner leaning them into flow and I believe both after market fasten them square. One after market has mounts for sweeps in seperator area and the other steggers the bars around. Only complaint I've heard of enclosed (solid or drum) rotors is more potential for rock damage and more cage wear on old non chromed cages in sunflowers. Anyway most of our machines still have open rotors were getting by just great and thats my $.02 American. Now lets hear it from the guys running enclosed. Good day.

 

[R_O_M]

The old N7 [83] we had,used to get large build ups of dust and some chaff inside of the thresher bar support bars when harvesting wheat and barley. When the thresher stopped rotating, some used to fall off.We then bounced and rattled our way down the paddock until the tank got full enough to hold her down or the dust built up and rebalanced the thresher. It still happens on our R62 [94] but only to a minor degree. Victoria. S.E Australia.

 

[RamRod]

I use the Sunnybrook fully enclosed rotor. It is perfectly balanced all the time which I really like. I sometimes in soybeans run many hours straight without stopping, and when you stop and restart, the factory setup may be very bouncy. Then I stop it right away again, and re-start it just before it comes to a complete stop, and usually helps. I so far have not seen any rock problems with the enclosed. Best part of the Sunny is that the bars are in offset sections so that the cylinder runs smoother, and should be easier on the drives to the rotor. Only one year on this rotor, but so far I consider it a best buy. Wish Gleaner would at least have it on the option page for new ones!

 

[mo]

My experience has been similar to ROM's. However, the n's rotor was seriously unbalanced and made worse with a hunck of iron hung at one end in a distorting effort. Balanced rotor by cleaning and removing any old weights, determined heavy_light side, added a ton of washers on every bolt along the length of the rotor at the 10 and 2 oclock postions with the light postion being at the twelve or straight up postion. If needed go onto the 12 oclock. It purred like a american watch and seldom got the hops.

 

[Big_Boy]

I have a 95 R62 which did not have extended cylinder bars and last year I installed the generation 2 Sunnybroke rotor along with high speed helicals and the wedge from Hurrt equipment, I don't know if this is a fair comparision but there was a huge difference in capicity which was especially noticable in green stem beans. I was worried that I would experence rotor loss in milo but I could not find any at all. I am very pleased with the lack of vibration and rumble from the cylinder and how even the cylinder feeds the chopper which does a perfect job of spreading residue behind a 30 foot header. I guess you could say I am very satisfied with this setup!!!!

 

[Dan]

I wouldn't say you have a fair comparision for what you have now compaired to what you had. The Sunnybrook acomplished the extending bars to discharge trick plus other bennys. Good job waking that machine up.

 

[RamRod]

Hey, Big Boy Wondering if you ran corn with your present setupIJ Especially interested in the high pitch helicals. I may only put in fast helicals on the thresh side, but if corn and beans seperate completely, I would maybe put in the whole cage set up with fast pitch. I have the Sunny Gen. II also. What can you tell meIJIJIJ Thanks!!

 

[Dan]

I've had a hard time figuring why a P1 would even behave as well as it does. If you did get some imbalance the shaft tube would wobble right inbetween thresher and seperator bars for the rotor is not tied together there like the P3's. I did see where a guy at one time did bolt some straps on out near cylinder bars to basically stiffen area and prevent wobble. I believe that this was mainly an inconveinence in the crops that required the higher cylinder speeds. If that tube had ended up with a bow there would be no way to balance cylinder no matter how many weights added for once you got her up to speed it would wobble and vibrate with high RPM. I know of a guy that could straighten tubes with a heat and quench trick. Any way I know what your saying with weight. We try add weight toward center of rotor for we have very little idea which end of rotor has major amount of imbalance. I suppose the places that can spin balance these things have a better idea where major imbalance is.

 

[Big_Boy]

Ram Rod I have not cut any corn with this setup but I will this fall so I cannot comment on how it works in corn but it sure works well in beans wheat and milo, it will harvest 50 Bu per acre beans at 15% moisture and a 30 ft head at 5.75 MPH with one tenth of one per cent splits and one fourth of one per cent foreign material according to the state graders. I forgot to mention that I also installed the hump kit at the time of the other modifications. I like the high speed helicals with all foreward bars as it really increased the capacity of this machine in my conditions and as a bonus the machine loss is next to nothing.