Combines OK Agco

[Ohio_Orange]

If the same people are running Gleaner that were running it back in the '70's, I wouldn't hold my breath. Dad put the "country boy" fix on many machines, (E III, K, F, and G)and turned them into real harvesters. Allis told him, "won't work", "cant be done", "no warranty", "where's your engineering degree". He built them anyway, and blew away the competition. Allis didn't want to talk about it then and today will be no different. If they would swallow some of their "sheepskin" pride and listen to the real pros they could dominate the market, but I expect to turn "blue" from asphixiation before that happens.

 

[T__langan]

I agree 110% with Hyper. It's time for you fellas to unleash the beast that is built into these machines. It's even more critical in these days of instant worldwide_nationwide communications via the internet that you put on a good show. In years past, if things didn't go well, there might only be a few hundred potential customers that seen the results. In these days, a poor performance results in the word being spread to thousands of potential customers that were not even at the show! I believe that you are well on your way in terms of changing the negative image of Gleaner combines and you have a perfect opportunity coming up to really make a positive impression. Take advantage of it! Tom langan

 

[Jeremy]

This is no different than most fields out there. When I worked for a major corporation making computer peripherals working in computer tech support, the engineer_marketing types NEVER asked the tech support staff about what customers were saying_wanting. It was just silly. Then they'd come up with some whirlygig that was just the Next Big Thing (NBT) and TS just looked at it and saw how bad it was, and we were AlWAYS right. Happened over and over. It's a shame really. Maybe you have to turn in your brain at the desk when you show up at a corporate job.

 

[Brian]

Hyper,Just to clarify things a little. I believe you should refer to that other guy as brian not Brian. Not that I am trying to distance myself from brian but I wouldn't want anybody to get confused.I can't say that brian was too far off. Everything he said about Cat combines I believe as well as what he said about R-7 and R-70 model machines. We run a Cat tractor so naturally they got us to test run a 480. I was very impressed. Yes, its too bad he didn't compare the Cat versus a late model R-72 especially if it had some of the upgrades on it. I wish an Agco engineer would have been riding with us today to tell me these upgrades don't work. R-72 with 530, Crary Air Reel, 50 bu albeit dry soybeans with few green stems, 270-310 cylinder rpms, no growling. very few cracks, good seperation etc... Same senerio with R-60..

 

[Tom_Russell]

Maybe AGCO is trying too hard to make a one-size-fits-all machine that will do an acceptable job on every crop anywhere in the world. That may give the marketing dept good bragging rights, but most of us only want a machine that will do the best job possible on our farms. I would be perfectly happy with a machine that would not cut wheat because I dont grow that stuff. I want a machine that is optimized for corn and beans and I have one nowa Hyperized R60. Tom in MN

 

[PETE]

Is there any way you could take a hyperized machine to the Farm Progress Show to show those AGCO Bozos how to build a better machineIJ Pete Hinrichsen