Good point Illinois, love that. I was at a farm auction 2 years ago and a green one at that. Had a couple friends who know we run the Silver machines so they were joking around saying yeah I bet that 9610 would bring alot more than your silver one, then asked my opinion. I said I figured it would bring around 75,000. It had duals, bin extensions, chaff spreader, most of the toys of that year. Yup it brought 75,600 and had 1200 engine hrs. I didnt glut, they just ate crow. Then I go and buy a second silver machine last fall 1995 R-62 for 75,000 with 2500 engine hrs. I know that sounds steep for the year, but as most of the guys that run gleaners on here I do have enough confidence in it that it will get my crops out in a speedy order. Im not color blind either, I have terraces and I just dont like the whole idea deere has of taking parts of the chaffer out so it will return on sidehills instead of throwing over. That may work for a short distance but my gleaner I dont even slow down on the side of terraces and I dont have to take parts of my chaffer out on sidehills to make it return, it goes straight to the grain tank were its supposed too.