Combines pulling wiresIJ

These younger fella's are giving my age group a bad rap........It is sad when the "good" book only gets quoted because of a movie they were watching back in a college dorm room.....No doubt experimenting with some of the stuff in FRs post below.....Maybe not the organic kind though.......:^)

Sombody has been watching pulp fiction !

Putting them in is easy, but removing them is a chore. When the plates get full of chaff getting the back hooks to release is a real pain. Chads, in your first post you said you run one set of seperator bars. Do you mean 4 straight bars and what are you going to change to in '05IJ Thanks for all your help! CW

If you want to run the cover plates and have them easy to remove, just weld some bolts to the bottom side of the front concave pointing down. Then drill holes in the cover plates to match the bolts. It doesn't take much to hold the cover plates on. Then, when you want to pull them off you can just take the nuts off the bolts and they will fall off. I would probably go about 3 rows in from each side. Just make sure the bolts are going to be easy to reach with the side shields removed.

I think they call the straight bars "retarder" bars. I'm planning on taking them out and going to all rice spikes for beans. I think they are costing me HP in stemmy beans, but I won't know till I change it. I may leave them in for corn, but I haven't decided yet. The disrupter guy(CRS) claims they're not needed with the disrupters installed and a full set of rice spikes over the grate. Yes the cover plates can be a pain to get out. For wheat or milo chaff, I generally just shake em back and forth real hard a few times and they'll pop out. Once in a while you have to dig around with a screwdriver. I've timed myself, and it normally takes less than 15 minutes to put them in or take them out. For the good they do, I think that's fair enough. It's WAY better than changing concaves or pulling_adding wires. If I change cages or combines I'll definately get another set of coverplates to fit. Chads

We have 2 rows of Gorden bars in front of spec rotor on a 1688...There has been times we have less than perfect threshing, but most times we can get the rotor speed and concave set to work without pulling wires (large wire concaves) or using cover plates...Air jet chaffer does a good job at cleaning...A lot of wetter days we shell corn before dinner and cut beans after changing only rotor speed and concave clearance a bit...wheat, corn, and bean rotation.

Here's the way we set up our concaves for our customers. All the wires in n1 concave and half of the wires in n2 and n3. Disrupters in the grates with rice spike bars over the grate section. No Retarder or stright bars at all. The reason case put retarder bars over the grate section was to keep the crop over the seperation section longer to remove the corn from the shucks. What do you think the retarder bars do to your green bean straw and wheet strawIJ The Disrupter bars with the rice spike bars above them cut up the corn shucks that was the reason for having the retarder bars. They also cut up the green stem bean straw and wheet straw. The downside of this set up is if you want tho save your wheat straw. If you do want to save your wheat straw you can take the 9 disrupters out. Your cover plates can be uses for wheat and maybe in beans if you have over 1500 hours on your concaes. If you have any questions about this call me at Estes Mfg. Co. 1*800-235-4461 ask for Don.