Combines Question about 8780

northernfarmer

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Dav11: Who ever told you that a 8780 is noisy in the cab is feeding you a line.. We have had MF 8560 and now a 8570 they are both very..very..quiet, and the 8780 is supposed to be even more so than the earlier models of Massey rotories. As far as capacity, a 8780 would have more than a 8570, just because of the extra HP it has. An XP will have more capacity than an 8780,again because of extra HP but the constant speed rotor also really increases the combines preformance in tough threshing crops or adverse conditions.
 

dav11

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northenfarmer-- I know a farmer about 12 miles away from me that field tested a 8780 and wasnt very impressed thats what he said the cab was so noisy they couldnt stand to drive it, I have heard after that it is only the 8780s that were made in the 1997,is that trueIJ I farm with 2 of my brothers and we have been considering updating for some time,we are running a 8 row head on a 860 with the 354 perkins and 8 rows is a little too much, 6 row would work better,do the 8570 and 8780 have what it takes for an 8 row or is it more of a 6 row machine-- how fast can you go with 8780 with 8 row head corn at 170 bushel and running 25% moistureIJ can you unload on the go with themIJ the 860 cant do it, do they have enough sieve area for itIJ when you ask a dealer the only answer is absoultly--until you own it and take it into field and discover it cant do what they bragged it to.
 

Silver_Shoes

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Dave number one you cant compare it to your old machine, thats like comparing eggs and apples. I know its probably kinda hard to grasp, but those older convential machines just dont have the horsepower and threshing capacity of the newer rotor machines. I have ran a 8780, but from what I read you would be very impressed by it. I think you might consider and 8780 XP and then you would never have a doubt about the machine being what you expect. Every year newer has something bigger and better, and yes in the combine area you can tell the difference. We started with rotors back with an N-5, which is a nice capacity machine and basically the same threshing process we have now, but the R-75 and all the combine in between had advancements that were one step ahead of the last. I think you going from a 860 to a 8780 would be a huge leap forward, but could rocket forward with the XP.
 

northernfarmer

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Dav11: I demoed a 1997 8780, it was as quiet or quieter than my 8560, and it was quieter than a JD 9500,9600 or a Gleaner R52. I can use my cellphone and the person I'm talking to doesn't know I'm running a combine. As far as capacity in corn, I can't help you as I grow small grains in Sask. My next combine will be either a 8780xp or a 1998 or newer 8780 so I can get the constant speed rotor added to it. The 98s are a heavier built machine than the 97s. Good luck
 

Ray

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There was a Service Bulletin from Massey relating to cab noise on 1997 machines. There was a kit available that was designed to increase noise suppression. If someone tried one and thought it was noisy, then I sure it had not been up-dated.
 

Harvester

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The noise problem does exist... at least in corn. It is a quiet machine in small grains, soys, etc. but in corn can be more noisy than expected due to the cab being centered over the front beater, as opposed to the offset cab of the 8570s and 8560s. The beater design is also the source. The new beater design in the 9690 and 9790 is supposed to greatly reduce noise from corn harvesting and can be easily put in the 8780s. There were also updates to cab noise suppression materials. Hope this helps. Still the best combine on the market.
 

MW

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We went from a 850 to a 8570 to a 8780 and now have a 8780XP. If you are use to the noise a 860 makes in the cab and then trade up to a 8780 you will wonder what the hell is going on when you are flying through 200 bushel corn and can actually hear yourself think. I have ridden in neighbors 9600's,9610's and 9650's and believe that the Massey 8780 has the better cab. You can't beat it for visability and ease of control. A 8570 is a lot quieter than a 850 and a 8780 is quieter yet. We only run a 6 row corn head in order to stay on even rows with the planter. The 6 row was a good match for the 850 and probably for the 8570 in high yielding wet corn but a 6 row is not really enough to keep a 8780 full. You can usually run as fast as the head can take it in most any corn. An 8 row head would definately be a better match. We have unloaded on the go 99% of the time with every machine with no problems except for the low unloading height on the 850. You will not be dissapointed with an 8570 or an 8780.
 

randyp

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We own 2 8780 1997 combines. Before that we had 2 8570 1993 combines and before that 2 860's. I have tried TR97_98_99 and 9750 STS against ours in the same field under same conditions. I will not say anything bad about the others, but they had nothing over our combines in capacity. With the constant rotor speed kit and the fuel pump properly set (done by Cummins so the fuel pump is not turned up) they take on any of the other rotaries. The cabs are nice and the noise level is low for a combine. We don't grow corn, but the stalks may cause a grinding sound from the beater. We run 25ft heads in 100bu. barley and they handle it very well. They are a simple and reliable machine. Over the past 3 years we have had 2 hours of down time and spend $1000 CDN a year on chopper blades and a few belts every now and then. Hope this helps.
 

hv_user

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I went from a 90 sp hillside to a 750 and than silver cab 760 with home made leveling. And on to a 8780 and than an xp with Hilco levelers. They are comfortable, quiet and simple.
 
 
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