Combines Question for Rolf on cutting system

Rolf

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G'Day silverluv First off I have never cut any sort of beans! (so my CID might not work for you !!!) But! lentils are something I do know a little about!!! The reason we have the quick cut in, is that we broke the knife head one after noon in green lentils (gumming up the knife sections!!!) and instead of fixing the double cut knife we had a standard 3 inch complete knife in the shed!!! (this of course was to save time you see!!!!) when we got back to the paddock (field!) with the replaced knife we harvested about 100 meters!!! and then drove the header back to the shed as the amount of crop we left behind was about the cost of a new knife head about every 100 meters!!!!! So the double cut was repaired and put back in and we have never had a problem since, it is a good idea to have double fingered knife guards as this will help with the amount of load that each knife section sees!! as you can see we use the no choke fingers this helps with keeping blocks out of the guards with the live tip of the knife sections. We use this knife in all our crops with no problems (wheat, barley, lentils canola, chickpeas, linseed, canary seed) some time ago I wrote a answer to someone in the talk show in regards to cutting speed of the knife and for the life of me I can't seem to find it!!! but basically you have to consider the speed of the knife strokes per distance moved forward!!! (how many mm you move forward per one stroke of the knife!) If you have the knife to slow it can keep breaking the head or section because your trying to shove to much into the knife sections per stroke, but if you have it to fast it will act like a big solid bar that doesn't cut at all. any way must go, hope I have giving you some info to help. Regard Rolf
 

silverluv

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Rolf, Was your header a standard cut {3"} bar to start with and then you added the double cut sickle. See if I remember right the quick cut sickle is supposed to run faster than the standard 3" sickle. So I was wondering if you had to speed up the sickle with the quick cut installed. We do run the crary guards and hold downs but with a 3" standard sickle. If I could just slip a quick cut in there without having to speed it up I would like to try it and see how it works. I would think that if you were cutting lentils with it that it would work good in soybeans. Thanks for the feedback Rolf.
 

Rolf

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G'Day silverluv Yep I think you would be all right with slipping a quick cut( or as us Aussies call them double cut!!!!) with out having to speed up or slow down the cutting speed! I think we did slow ours down! but that was to take away the vibration as much as possible, Also you really need to install the fly wheel as this helps in keeping every thing smooooooth!!!!!!! I would make sure that you have the Cary no choke type of finger guards as they give an extra cut spot! DON'T use standard 3 inch finger guards as that will be defeating the purpose!! When we are down in lentils we find that our front losses go up at speed above 4.5 MPH so that's what our front is set up for in everything!! And with the same set up in wheat we can cruise along at about 6 or so MPH in a 30 to 40 bushel crop. This set up along our front gives a very clean cut. PS: This last year we cut the back out of our flex 500 back panels as we had it bowing down at each end, (from new!!!!) we inserted some heavier gal sheets and also level it so as to make it feed better and flex better and that made a HUGE difference to how the whole front performed, Can highly recommend that anybody looks into the back panel upgrade to help stiffen the front!. Rolf
 

RamRod

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The clean cut or double cut is recommended by Gleaner to be run Slower than the 3" setup.
 
 
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