keith
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Stay with the green.You went green for a reason.I run a R62 and I dont like the way agco has treated me on something.I don't like the 800 head.When it's time to trade I will look green or red.
Combines R62 vs R65
Harvester
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And one guy (and others) went silver from green for a reason. The R62 has many advantages over the green rotary and green conventional. If you are unhappy with something (performanceIJ) on your flex head, you need to work through your dealer and have him contact the blockman or a combine rep from Hesston so they can address it. You shouldn't let just the header take you out of a great combine. Then again, why would SilverTurnedGreen listen to us, who are perfect strangers to him and may very well be making something upIJ The point is one never knows. A later model R62 would be a great buy. That 2 series cab is hard to beat in functionality. Simple with great room and visibility. The 5 series has a more advanced cab with great monitoring capabilities. From a performance standpoint, there will be little difference. Future trade value is probably biggest consideration and in that case, if the Gleaner dealer is offering to get you out of the green one which has very poor resale value right now, I think you ought to seriously consider getting into the R62, which has, I am told, the highest book value resale on the market. Deere can no longer make that claim. Of course, you always will have access to the wealth of knowledge and experience available on this site, and our regrets if you stay in the green one
Rockpicker
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What where your reasons for buying a 9650 and what are the other guy's reasons for wanting his JD backIJ Sounds like your AGCO dealer knows what he is doing.
cat_track
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wow where are these good gleaner dealers i would take the gleaner dealers deal if you can afford the differnce the gleaner dealer is trying to do what most combine dealers wont do and thats back their word on customer satifaction in todays greed for the greenbacks we here in eastern washington have one dealership thats not over 2 hrs away from the farm the bussiness has expanded and 20 or less years ago the farmers word was good and the dealers word was good and both met on mutual ground including the dealer trying to do the best he could within their means of giving the best in customer satifaction instead today they ignore your problem talk the bandaid theory and are so ready to take you to legal action if your bill is not paid due to a dispute in other words their bussiness has forgotten what made them be able to expand their dreams and goals but have forgotten what customer satifaction and base customers is all about. oh so now i have a white elephant of a combine that isnt good enough for his lot either the combine is a good combine but has had some problems with the starter system and in our area because of white wheat is harder to thresh especially the spring kinds they never put on a return to cylinder kit to catch more of the unthreshed grain later in the future they say its the right thing to do and denied any time in the past of promoting one without the kit of saying that it was not needed when i put that on the grain loss was reduced to acceptable loss on the ground and hills we have here. one time they over hauled a cylinder gear box and their shop ran out of oil so they did not remember to put any in there apperently when they got some in and said the machine was field ready like i wanted after i did the normal maintence including engine oil change but did not expect a gearbox just overhauled to not have oil put into it well 7 hrs into harvest and 80 more to go, cylinder came to a complete stop too bad the combine did not burn up it was hot enough and insured enough for a painted one. also while it was outside their shop i had some brake problems in getting a cap off to check the fluid, couldnt get it off they said not to worry you have a hydrostat to brake for you instead of foot brakes so dont worry about the fluid level well i then ask them why they put foot brakes in this thing. well so much for this frusration of doing the dealer satifaction first theory because of the big egos to overcome then i bought john deere to give me customer satifaction back its name again so at least your agco dealer is trying to satisfy both ways again for the good of his customers and his bussiness for future customers actually its called ETHICS!!! OH GOOD ETHICS ps guess who paid for all this mess up thru the years wasnt them at gleaner in this state i would like to know who the agco dealer is there he deserves the dealer of the year and commended on his efforts its just good to see a positive approach to customer satifaction especially when spending the kind of money they want for a combine today!! i acually tried this approach on our dealer [for resolve] for a older cultivator [even one that has been setting there on their lot for 3 or 4 years] or any tillage tool that was useful for my farming operation they didnt want to do that either but i was welcome to buy one outright from him cause he thought i needed it yea by the way have went back to deere and have had better customer satifation even had good offers from case ih but couldnt reach their bottom line for now my thoughts is get the dealer who will keep you satified on the long term silver green yellow red or any other shade of color and doesnt procrastinate his word or their hidden adgenda on you sounds like you have a good dealer and would back the machine he trying to sell you in giving back the other customer his brand of satifaction good luck on your choice
SilverTurnedGreen
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My local AGCO dealer has AlWAYS worked hard for me, which is surprising since the only purchases I've made from him is a C62 and a White 6105 tractor. To look at his lot, you would think that he does very little business since his used inventory is always minimal. With this offer he's made me on my Deere, I'm starting to understand that he is actually a very astute businessman who pre-sells his trades at every available opportunity. The potential buyer for my Deere has already been out to my place to look at my combine, and if this deal proceeds, my Deere will be going DIRECTlY to his farm (from my shed to his) and NEVER see the AGCO dealers shop; - good clean business! I feel far more confident in the "survivability" of my AGCO dealer when I see how he manages his business, and since he isn't a high-volume combine dealer, I experience far better service from him than from Deere, where I'm "just a number" since I don't participate in the "roll-over" programs. The other thing I appreciate in this deal is the fact that I have until February 10 to think about it; - no pressure! All in all, a great potential buying experience!
SilverTurnedGreen
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Since my N6 fiasco, I've always owned a Deere combine; - mainly since I do alot of custom combining for dairy farmers and horse farms who prefer better balable straw. My custom work is dwindling since some of the dairy farms has ceased operations. I'm happy with my Deere, but my local dealership is starting to let me down on service. All but two of my tractors are Deere, plus most of my planting and tillage. I think it's time to perhaps "exercise some options"!
SilverTurnedGreen
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I have an 800 series head on my C62 and it worked fine once some of the paint was worn off. What kind of problems are you having with itIJ
Ed_Boysun
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My son, who is the chief combine operator around here also likes the 2 cab better than the 5. I haven't taken the time to sit in one yet so I couldn't tell you. I understand the 5s have an electric adjust cyl. clearance and I think also an electric close rock-door. Neither of those really interest me either as in the three years that I've owned the 72 I've never re-adjusted the cyl clearance or had the door spring open. The 5 series has a drilled gear-case so you can grease the coupling on the cyl. drive without messing with that little door, but the later model 2s had the same feature. I'm sure the one your looking at has a drilled gear-case. About the only thing that would interest me about the 5 is the heavier final drives. I haven't had any problems, but I always like things that are built heavier. I think it's a character flaw. Ed in Montana
SilverTurnedGreen
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The R62 I'm considering is a VERY late model (brand new) machine which my dealer had to "pay out" (I'm assuming it's in his "paid stock"),so it most likely has the drilled gear case; - I'll be sure to ask. I'm wondering if the electric concave clearance might be available as a dealer installed option, as the remote stone door. I appreciate your reply as now I can ask more "informed" questions when I speak to him. As far as the heavier final drives are concerned, I don't plan on installing bin extensions, so there shouldn't be any problems with drives. I, too, once believed that "heavier is better", until I saw some of the weights of the new Deeres and New Hollands; - now I'm not so sure.
RJT
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I don't believe the heft of the final drives was changed, just the gear ratio. It goes a little slower in each gear so you have more pulling power. This also reduces road gear on the 5's from 26 to 21. If we have an enginieer with agco reading this please let me know if I am right since I need to take the axle extension for 22" rows off my 98 2 series and put on the 5 series when it comes. I'm hopeing the 6 bolt pattern on the final drives is the same otherwise I'll have to have some new extensions made. They cost about $1400 per pair.