Harvester
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What crops would be the most important factor. The R75 would be the winner in most crops, and has a clear advantage in other considerations such as repair costs, simple design, Cummins engine, and cab.
Combines R75 vs 9760 jay dee
Brian
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Since your getting few responses I'll give you my opinion even though you didn't ask for it
Don't know what crops your talking about but I've seen the STS in corn and beans and have an R-72. Certainly can no longer say that Gleaner is the big boy on the block as far as capcity goes...the STS's are big too. Which is biggerIJ Who knows, they are both capable of over running their respective headers most days. Grain samples. Under most harvesting conditions I'm not sure what you could do to improve sample from Gleaner, it is usually very good. Biggest complaint I've heard from operators of both brands is as conditions get really dry, samples can get a little dirty. Of course a little "dirty" usually doesn't cost you money, however splits can and do. As a soybean seed grower I've heard from plant managers many times the NH TR's and Gleaners are tops when it comes to splits and cracks. Other stuff. I'm sure you've heard all the horror stories about the STS as well as all the good stories. I'm guessing they are all true. Neighbor with a new STS two years ago harvested the first 13 days with JD tech at his side, never did get contour master, automatic header, and a bunch of other stuff to work first season. Another neighbor had JD tech out to help with rotor loss in corn, even he couldn't get it to stop. Still others have had great luck with them and been very satisfied customers. I think the R-75 is still a good investment because are nearly bullet proof and a much lower inital investment. However, if JD gets these babies more dependable and can keep their costs in-line they will be tough to beat.
Don't know what crops your talking about but I've seen the STS in corn and beans and have an R-72. Certainly can no longer say that Gleaner is the big boy on the block as far as capcity goes...the STS's are big too. Which is biggerIJ Who knows, they are both capable of over running their respective headers most days. Grain samples. Under most harvesting conditions I'm not sure what you could do to improve sample from Gleaner, it is usually very good. Biggest complaint I've heard from operators of both brands is as conditions get really dry, samples can get a little dirty. Of course a little "dirty" usually doesn't cost you money, however splits can and do. As a soybean seed grower I've heard from plant managers many times the NH TR's and Gleaners are tops when it comes to splits and cracks. Other stuff. I'm sure you've heard all the horror stories about the STS as well as all the good stories. I'm guessing they are all true. Neighbor with a new STS two years ago harvested the first 13 days with JD tech at his side, never did get contour master, automatic header, and a bunch of other stuff to work first season. Another neighbor had JD tech out to help with rotor loss in corn, even he couldn't get it to stop. Still others have had great luck with them and been very satisfied customers. I think the R-75 is still a good investment because are nearly bullet proof and a much lower inital investment. However, if JD gets these babies more dependable and can keep their costs in-line they will be tough to beat.aussie
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In cereals and canola the JD eats the gleaners. Especially in cool weather and in the evening and night. And I'm a Gleaner man from way back.
Harvester
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I would say in big canola swaths that the STS does have a considerable advantage over the Gleaner, in that it is easily threshed and the STS has a bigger feederhouse. In tall straw (high trash),the STS likely has higher feeding capacity. However, when not cutting at ground level, the Gleaner is still the machine to beat in cereals. It will run circles around the STS in capacity and sample quality in this condition, and when the rotor is properly configured, the Gleaner can be made an excellent tough-crop combine.
NDDan
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It's sad but there are so many Gleaner rotarys still out there with none of the low cost no brainer updates done. Nearly every year a few more machines come into our area without extended cylinder bars or feeder shocks. Thats fine if the guys liked them like that but I think most of the time the guys hated them in tough going. Most guys didn't think there was anything they can do about it and get this I have heard mechanics at schools say I just wish them guys on internet would just shut up. Thats hard to take when that very dealer is likely losing custumers. Anyway I hope you are comparing year for year because Gleaner has made alot of improvements over the ten years that they never changed the model designations. Also there are some very simple things in the works to improve feeder capacity and flow threw the rotor to bring the Gleaner rotor up another level. I think Gleaner called one of their machines an all crop one time and they are still tring to live by that. Sometimes I think they went overboard but I'm getting more and more confident it can get very close with a new enough machine or the proper upgrades. It would be fun to set up a comparison one time which included switching crops from one extreme to the other and see who shines. Take care
cornman
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We had a love hate relationship with our R72 and R62. They out ate anything in corn and pretty well in wheat, but soybeans it was another thing. We got an 03 CIH 2388 to get more capacity in beans knowing that we would sacrifice corn capacity. It has their new rotor and man did I learn something. It will eat up the r 72 or electronic 62 in corn too. Wheat is its weak suit, gleaner has more in wheat and if they get the new bugs out of the 8010 capacity takes on a whole new meaning. I have a neighbor that says they are running 6.5 mph in 200 bu corn with a 12x30 head.
NDDan
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Do you still have the Gleaners running with the 2388 in the same fieldsIJ What years were the Gleaners and what held them backIJ Did you perform any tricks that you have found on this site to wake them up a bitIJ I've found that only two reverse bars spining in same circle can cut capacity of R62 nearly in half in green soybeans. let us know if you still have a Gleaner and want some tips. Take care