We traded our R62 this winter for an R72. Our local dealer went broke(poor management) so we drove about everything-AGCO R72, Cat 465, CaseIH 2388, 9650STS. All have pros and cons. We liked the capacity of the Deere, AGCO and Cat. The platform on the JD is awesome. The Cat has a lot of capacity in corn but is an elevctronics nightmare. The Case is a nice machine but a little small if you run an 8 row head in 150+ bushel corn. The Case is almost as simple as the AGCO. All these machines were very good. If the Case had 50 more hp and a 300 bushel grain tank and a bigger shoe, they would have something. Case was maybe a tad bit more gentle on beans than the AGCO or JD. The 21 or 23 series is a huge apgrade from the 16 series, however we like the price, capacity and ease of service with the Gleaner. Get an R62 and you won't even remember what a 1660 or 1680 is. Also, hugger corn head is the best.