Combines rice combine

[riceman]

Yeah, its a spike tooth machine. Could have stainless augers and a different concaves and such. A rasp bar will work, but not as good. Will you be running a stripperIJ Then it woouldn't matter which type you have. The last 9600 we had was a rasp bar machine. We had a stripper too.

 

[twinscrew]

Straw walkers are the weak point in a 9600 or 9610 used in rice. Either a rasp bar or spike tooth cylinder will do a fine job of threshing. Threshing isn't the problem in rice, separation is. That's why Deere came out with the CTS. You could get them with rasp bars or spike tooth cylinders up front. Most around here with CTS's opted for rasp bars. The rasp bar equipped CTS's do a better job in most any other crop than the spike tooth models. I'm not sure they ever made a "rice" model of their 9600 straw walker machines. If they did, it wasn't anything more than adding a little stainless in high wear areas. Maybe HD final drives. If you do very much rice, don't even consider one unless you have a stripper head out front. They may be good in other crops, but they're a poor excuse for a rice combine. A CTS, STS, or AFX rotor equipped Case would be a much better option.

 

[Rolo]

Being rice is only a smaller portion of my farm, but adding every year, soybeans the most acreage and milo in the middle, would a CTS2 workIJ

 

[riceman]

I'd stay away from a CTS in milo. It will just grind it up into a powder. The way I look at it, you can get a conventional and stay dissapointed with it because of the so-so job it will do in all crops or get a rotor and be extremely happy with it in all crops. But if you get a walker machine and run a stripper, you'll get good at putting walkers in. Ours broke 3 in one year. Where are you atIJ I'm in Arkansas, close to Memphis.

 

[combinejockey99]

Is it just because of the rice that the walkers broke or something elseIJ Just curious is all, never been around rice other than at the stove!! lOl

 

[twinscrew]

Gotta disagree with riceman regarding the CTS. The CTS is simply a 9500 with a tine separator behind the cylinder instead of straw walkers. Cylinder_walker machines have been harvesting milo successfully for decades. A CTS is just an improvement on that design. It won't grind up any more grain than any other cylinder walker machine. Probably less because you can run the cylinder slower and more open with a CTS vs a 95_9600. The tine separator won't grind any grain and will actually do a little bit of threshing in addition to any excellant job of separating. How riceman can attribute walker failure to a stripper head is beyond me. With a stripper head, there's virtually no load on the straw walkers. With a stripper head out front, the only area of the combine with a load on it is the header and the cleaning shoe. Cylinder and straw walkers are just along for the ride.

 

[riceman]

Ok. Here goes: Because the walkers have NO load on them at all, they are just in there flopping around. You can't slow them down any, so they are running full speed. The straw acts sort of like a cushion. Without that cushion, they break. We had a 1990 model 9600. Broke 3 in half during one rice crop. Had 2 others cracking in the same spot. It was right above the rear crank. We welded them up good and finished the crop and sent her to the auction. I can show you the 3 broken walkers and you can explain to me what happened. Right, a CTS is nothing more than a 9500 with a different separator system. But why would you want to use a smaller elevator system and less horsepower with a much higher yeilding crop. You can't make 225 bushel highly abrasive soybeans can youIJIJIJ But its nothing for rice to make that much. Once you cut milo with a rotor, you'll never want a walker again. But thats just my thoughts on the matter. Buy what you want and don't cry to me!

 

[twinscrew]

CTS's come with about the same HP as 9600's (assuming same model years). Cutting high moisture, high yielding milo, they may do a little better than a 9600. If it's dry, the 9600 will have an advantage. Same thing in beans. When you're running a bunch of green MOG through a combine, elevator size isn't the limiting factor. Separating ability is. That's what the CTS was designed for. Were your straw walkers in good shape before you added the stripper headIJ It everything is tight and in order, they ought to run with a light load just fine.

 

[riceman]

The walkers were in great shape before we got the stripper. But the trouble started shortly thereafter. One thing not a lot of guys in my area ever learned was that on a 9600 the rear axle is ajustable in height. We jacked ours up all the way and it really helped with the seperation. I just like a rotor machine. Nothing wrong with getting what you want. We have a red combine. We did have a long line of green ones before it too. So people can change.

 

[Ken]

To get away from the flopping around of the walkers, I suggest you replace those aluminum bearings with the wood blocks that loewen supplies. If the walker cranks are already worn somewhat because of all that flopping around, they also supply an undersized bore wood block. I know of a repair guy in Minnesota that installs hundreds of these every year.