Combines Rotary help

[weber]

We traded a 1460 in a few years back. I talked to the salesman the other day they are asking $22000 for it with a 1010 25ft head. The engine hasnt been to the field yet unless the have rented it out. I had been in dealings with them and 2 or 3 days before I was going down to trade I lost the engine in it so it was rebuilt before I traded. It is an 84 model and is in super good shape it was loaded for the year. If you would like any more details e-mail me

 

[clyde]

The need for a 16 series vs a 1400 series is capacity. How many acres, how fast. I have a 1480 that is an 84, a 1680 that is 86 modified with long sieve and cross flow fan, and a 97 2188. None is better than the other in my opinion on quality of job done. One doesn't lose more grain,crack more grain, cost more to maintain, etc. The 1480 has not been used the last two years even though I keep it field ready,only because it has gotten too small for my current operation. If you are interested in a well maintained machine that could stand a paint job because nothing down here is shedded,let me know. damronjr@amaonline.com

 

[clyde]

To your questions: Make sure the machine has electric over hydraulic in the cab. I had a 1460 with cable driven hydraulics and found nothing bad about it but value plummets. The Elephant ears and vanes should be checked. The transition cone needs to be checked for thickness. Climb under the machine and make sure there are no holes in the transition cone. The rasp bars on older machines were a flat bar instead of an angle iron shape. Make sure the rotor is not worn out where rasp bars attach even if the machine now has angle iron rasp bars because it probably didn't come with them. The rasp bars need to be checked for wear. If the beater blades are broken on the right side,thats ok because I've never seen one that wasn't. Fan blades should be checked for cracks. Pulleys on right side of machine should be checked for wear between shieves. Shaker arm bearings need to be inspected closely with a pry bar to nake sure rollers aren't out. Grain tank should be checked for leaks inside of machine where grain falls back over rotor and also outside on the left side of machine where the double trough is formed. They wear through and are a pain to deal with in season. Check the feeder house chain to see how far it is stretched out. Check the auger trough pan under the rotor at the front to make sure it is not getting thin or rusting out. Make sure no augers are razor sharp. Check all sprockets on elevator system. Check side rails for sieves for cracks because if shaker bearings were bad, the rails hammer and crack. look inside grain elevators to make sure the common wall between up and down hasn't worn through. If you find one kept up,you can run it forever. Or until it gets too small.

 

[agflyboy]

All the things that clyde said are true if you keep them up they will last along time one thing to look for is rotor balance wind the rotor up to 900 plus rpm in high range and watch or feel if it shakes. If it shakes there is something wrong with the rotor and it needs to be fixed pronto also the sieve bushings are very important. I have a decent looking 1982 electric over hydraulic 1480 with 3600 hours for sale I am in east central South Dakota Email me if interested. I feel it is reasonable priced and need to sell because I purchased newer machine.

 

[jlf]

Thanks guys for the help. I have a couple more questions. As far as engines, some have IH and some Cummings, I think. What years or models uses which and what's your opinion on eachIJ Also, I have never run a machine with a hydro, anything to look for hereIJ And what about speeds...could you explain that someIJ Sorry to be so ignorant! Thanks

 

[agflyboy]

All the 1400 series had IH engines either 466 or 426. the 1600 started with cummins around 1989 and they have more horsepower which is a good thing. Both are good powerplants as far as speeds go I don't know what you mean but they run down the road about 17 to 18 MPH. In the field it is all a matter of header size and crop. Check to see if the hydro is sluggish when changing speeds and forward to reverse. It should be fairly crisp and responsive. It is a fairly straight forward system and either works or it doesn't.

 

[jlf]

agflyboy, Some machines have "two speeds". Is this referring to something with the hydro (ie ground speed) or does it refer to rotar speedsIJ Thanks

 

[Farm_Kid2]

The "two speed" option refers to a variable displacement motor in the hydro. The standard machine has a fixed displacement motor. An electric toggle switch in the cab changes the swashplate angle in the hydro motor, so you get more groundspeed in the "HI" setting. This comes at the expense of torque, so the machine may seem a little sluggish compared to when your in the "lO" setting. I've never run one with this option, would like to hear how they really work.

 

[jlf]

Another question...I see some IH machines listed as "grain" and others as "corn and beans". Is there a differenceIJ If so, what are the differences, and if not obviuos how can I tell by looking at the machine. Thanks again.

 

[agflyboy]

The concaves on corn and bean combines have larger space between wires than wheat concaves they are refered to as small or large wire concaves witch are interchangeable. The concaves are either slotted or keystock and are also interchangeable. The corn soybean machines usually have screen on unloading auger and bottom of elevator chain housings witch can be covered over or exchanged. Some times you will find a machine with both sets of grates and concaves this is nice if doing numerous types of crops.I don't know if there are other diferences internally between them, except the rice machines have a different rotor and you can have regular or specialty rotor in most northern machines. The specialty rotor is more aggressive and seems to work better in soybeans.