Combines rotor removal and hyper mods

oldstruck

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Hello Nebraska Gleaner! May I askIJ What size of machine are you working onIJ Where are you located atIJ I am in Nebraska also, and am very curious and interested in these modifications. If you dont want to say on here where you are located you can email me at sh45422@alltel.net Thank you!
 

R_O_M

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What model combineIJ Ours is a 94 model R62. Would have upgraded if we could have grown anything over the last 10, currently going on eleven years for us and a definite 11 years for a lot in the OZ grainbelt. Our approximate technique follows which is with only a front end loader to extract the rotor. Others may have better ways. Put the auger out to prevent damage to before you start to remove anything. Unbolt gal cover sheet and fold down. Remove belts and one chopper idler.[ Trying to remember this as I didn't get near the machine last year as it and Rolf did little more than a scenic tour of the paddocks before going back into the shed due to full on drought. If that act is repeated this year then you may be able to buy a good used R62 after January ] Undo inspection plate and chock under rotor to prevent it dropping when the road sign outer plate is removed. Unbolt plate leaving rotor naked to the world! Slide a sheet of gal or tin 18" or so wide under the rotor to enable the rotor to slide out with out catching too much. Wind concave right up to support rotor as it comes off gearbox spline. Use a couple of bars through the cage to slide and jiggle rotor a fair way out of the cage. Now front a end loader or equivalent with a good hay prong or pallet forks or similar is needed. We have done the following both on top of and under the rotor Place fork into space between bars of rotor. Chain the rotor firmly to the fork and around the central tube. Carefully lift and juggle rotor to prevent catching on the cage and reverse out with rotor. Balancing after rotor mods; We were lucky to acquire a broken gearbox spline shaft from an N7 which fits the R62 rotor spline receiver. If you can get such a spline, hang onto it as you will use it every time you remove the rotor. If not, I would suggest that you get a foot or two of shaft machined down to be a good neat fit inside of the splines in the receiver. As little play as possible here so the rotor does not sag on the shaft to get a good rotor balance. An alternative here would be to make a stand with a bearing and maybe a neat fitting sleeve over the bearing and into the spline receiver and then slide this stand and bearing into the spline receiver. No sag that way. Bolt the road sign plate back on. Either a large free running bearing on the shaft to support the splined end or make up two small bearings in a V [ on a stand of a height that makes the rotor level with the end plate on ] and nest the spline into them and to turn freely. When given a gentle turn in either direction, the rotor should roll on or back freely to the heaviest spot. A good set up like this which is pretty cheap, can indicate out of balance to a point where a standard bolt washer fastened under a bar bolt or onto the spider plates will slowly roll the rotor. Scrupulously clean All residues from every part of the rotor and backing bars before balancing as you are just wasting time and effort if you don't Spread any balance weights along the rotor as this is static balancing only and not dynamic balancing which will costs heaps. Unless very badly unbalanced, dynamic balancing of an open centre combine rotor other than a brand new one, is probably a waste of time as material lodges in behind the bars and throws the rotor balance out anyhow.
 

Gerald

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Think R.O.M as it down PAT. Only have a 2'x4' piece of puckboard (1_8" polyIJ) with a wire attached to help remove puckboard after rotor is in place. The puckboard makes it very easy to move rotor while lining up the coupler.
 

Hyper_Harvest_II

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R.O.M.'s way will definitely work but we like to shave as much time on rotor removal as possible.(9 mins. to roll the auger,drop the side sheet,hold chopper belt out of way with vise grips,remove inspection cover and nuts that hold end sheet to combine,using a skidloader with forks or forklift spear into access area with cylinder bar between forks and pull rotor from processor area with stop sign still attached.)After mods. have been completed reinstall in reverse order with help of second person to line rotor coupling with gearbox using a couple of pry bars.(Installation 12 mins.)This works for both Series II machines and also on N-Series. With the N-series we usually pull the hinge pin on access panel that flips up when auger is rolled out and then modify galvinized side sheet by using a air nibbler to make an access panel out of existing side sheet and adding two hinges for easy flip up to get rotor removed with stop sign still attached. Install F2 bars at the 6 o'clock position end to end on seperator side. Hyper Harvest II P.S. If you need pictures of side sheet access panel mod.let me know.
 

PETE

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The only thing I did differently from Hyper II is that I removed the bearing and end plate first. I like Hyper's way better as it is a pain trying to get that bearing mounted back on the end plate with the rotor in the machine. The side sheet mod is really nice as it is hard to get the side sheet out of the way once you get all the bolts out. Thanks Dave! FYI- For the spacers on the P3 stars I had a machine shop make them for me using a seperator bar for the hole and length pattern, they cut and drill better than me plus they made sure the bars all weighed the same. - Don't forget to locktite your bolts on the cylinder, cheap insurance. - Don't forget to replace the reverse bars with forward. Once you get the rotor out step back and look at how much of that machine is used to thresh and separate vs how much is hopper. Just like the cylinder machines Gleaner does the job quickly and efficiently with more room for clean grain. I was very impressed with the difference in grain quality and capacity after I "Hyperized" my rotor. I hope you will be too. Pete Hinrichsen
 

NEBRASKA_GlEANER

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Oldstruck, I am in the far northeast corner of the state just west of sioux city,ia.I apologize for not stating the machine is an N-5.The new cylinder bars made quite a difference last year so I am very interested to see the difference this will make.I will be combining in two weeks so I will give feedback then.