I just get irritated when a dealer says about something cheaper "well, you get what you pay for." What a stupid thing to say. How John Deere fools people yet today with their mantra of it costs more now but it will be worth more is beyond me. Biggest crock I've come upon is JD wants $50,000 for their 20 foot no-til drill, guess what Sunflower, Crustbuster, and Haybuster want for theirs the same sizeIJ $25,000. The Deere drill may be good I'll grant them, but it sure as hell isn't $25,000 better. Same goes for their lawn mowers. And with apologies to anyone owning or someone who has bought a used one, anyone who pays $12-15,000 for a 30 year old 4020 is an idiot.