We have some customers that use their straw as ginsing cover in Ontario, and they do notice a difference in straw coming from our STS compared to our conventionals. They don't really complain about it so all is good. If you do it earlier in the year there is no difference between the two. Every farmer is different though. When you windrow the straw now do you drop it straight off the walkers or run it though the chopperIJ What crop is itIJ