Combines Those kittens are to slow

FarmBuddy

Guest
Ambiguous post like yours serves no useful purpose here. We would like to verify the facts with your neighbor. So far there are not any Gleaners in Machinerylink fleet, but these would be considered if the customer demand was greater. What size head did you have on your R70IJ What Cat model and header size did he haveIJ What is his name, location, phone or email addressIJ
 

R_O_M

Guest
FarmBuddy, I thought that N C gleaners post was very reasonable! He merely told us what he experienced. Perhaps in different conditions the results may have been different also. And he did cause you to ask some pertinent questions. But why the strident aggressive tone and apparent sensitivity to N C gleaners post IJ Please, a little politeness goes a long way. We are on this site to learn, not to start a fight !
 

R72

Guest
You must run cats do you. What is Machinerylink fleet. You don't need NC friend's name email or any thing. I have combined beside cats some i could pull away from some i could not. It all comes down to how the operator has it set. You don't have to be so rude to him. He was stating his experences, not starting a color war. Colin
 

FarmBuddy

Guest
Yep, you're right R72 and R.O.M., after re-reading my post, I agree that I was perhaps short and harsh. NC Gleaner, I apologize to you for sounding that way. Your title seemed to belittle the Cats (which are still my favorite combines to run). Afterall, they (Cat and Claas) have also brought some new levels of performance and features to harvesting over the past seven years. But, so have the other brands. like many other people, I also use this web sight to gather good and factual information, as well as listening to others personal experiences. This is especially helpful during the slower winter months. I think we would all expect an R70 (Class 7) to out perform a (Class 5) Cat 450 _w 30' header. The R70 should also be able to compete against a Cat 460 (Class 6 machine). If his R70 is well maintained and adjusted, it should theoretically be about an even be a match for a 470 with the same size head. Although NC Gleaner did not provide information on year, models or header sizes, I doubt if the R70 was running circles (what's this really equate toIJ) around a 480. The R-series Gleaners have always been known to be pretty fast and productive in corn and wheat, The natural flow design is perhaps the best way to feed a rotary, but the offset feederhouse and header is a bit of a pain. Some day, if they survive, the cage area to the left of feederhouse will probably be turning top forward to create a Bi-Rotor configuration and even more productivity adnd dynamic vane angles. It's a "natural" configuration for this, with its existing 360 degree concave _ cage. One of you should at least modify one as such. The Machinerylink fleet included JD, Cat and CIH combines the past two or three years.
 

dakota

Guest
Well, if you want a preciser comparison of two combines in the same fields here you go: A 470R with a 36'MacDon and a 9650STS with a 30'auger head have been combining together in SD last summer for about a week in a heavy wheat crop sometimes down. Consistently the STS did about 2 acres per hour more and had the better grain sample, means no cracked kernels. At the end of the day the CAT used 35% more fuel than the STS. We all know the advantage of the draper head. With a draper the STS would have performed even better. Its limit was feeding trouble with the auger head. The CAT was mostly limited by grain loss. Some might argue the CAT might not have been adjusted right. Well, the Claas guys were out and couldn't do any better either. So much for comparing a so called class 7 (470R lexion) with a class 6 (9650 STS) combine.
 

R_O_M

Guest
Thanks Guys! Now cool it! If you want to start a color war, please go to one of the other sites where they seem to specialise in that sort of thing. Just leave us Gleaner guys in peace so that we can get on with life!
 
 
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