I started out on an 82 Massey Harris with a water pan in the top of the cab and a blower motor that blew the moisture on your face for some sort of cooler temp when cutting wheat. Each night you could take the paint scraper and literally peel a layer of grime off your face. But I have to agree. That was not that bad of a little combine and it served us well and we still have it with a pickup head on it now to be used for harvesting alfalfa seed. When we bought the 410 with the straight 6 gas chevy engine is when we started noticing the downside to massey as well. One thing that can never be argued though is you could buy a comparable massey to any other color for a fraction of the price and they weren't as crude as say a belarus Don 1500 by any means. I've argued for years and hold still to my belief that masseys biggest fault was thier darn poor quality control. They were building and selling combines so darn fast they didn't care and the daily bugs to be fixed in the field that took alot of time from engineer stupidity design of placement of things hurt. When we got rid of that 410 (with that big barn door on the cab) and traded for the 750 we thought we had the world by the horns. Again, endless repairs. First year alone after harvest the machine went back in and they literally had to put in half the bolts in the machine to hold it together. Whether they fell out or were just never there I don't know. Something that if they had quality control would of solved. I graduated from the 82 into a 6620. I ran it for 10 years and then I traded it for the current 9600 I run now. I see things on that maximizer deere copied from massey and improved on. While massey was crude on some of the developments of the machine I think, they still did a fair job (750 gray cab I'm thinking of writing this) of making the machine look and feel somewhat modern for the time. But, I do have to say, I would take a reverser any day over a High inert cylinder. Plus, a perkins diesel is the lowest power plant on the totem pole in my books. I spose all in all a guy shouldn't gripe. We ran the MH_MF insignia for 30+ years and are still in business of farming. They definitely helped us get where we are. That and a determined father that is tight with his money......*grin* Don't care what color you run. They all have thier quirks and problems as some know. Just to me, seemed like the masseys we owned sure wanted to have more than thier fair share.