Riceman, please try again. I forgot the old AOl name did not work for e-mail. It's Antheraea59[at]aol.com. No, I'm not trying to farm any rice, just grow a small 8'x10 plot just to see what it's like. A coffee can's worth of seed is fine, too. I've just not been able to get anyone to ever send me a sample of seed rice or even combine-run rice. Yes, I'm very close to El Reno, too.