Could you elaborate a little moreIJ I would like to here about your problems, or concerns. Was it that particular machine or do you think it would have been the same with any of themIJ Was your dealer much help, did you ever find out what was wrong with the concaveIJ What cropsIJ What conditionsIJ Sorry to ask so many questions but I figured I might get some useful info out of this forum. Thanks What model of Binders do you runIJ We had a 2388 out last fall. Nice Machine. But not nice enough to make us switch.