Combines WA Johnson Debris Bib worked well

FarmBuddy

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Subj: Posting on Combine forum Date: 11_13_2006 5:10:44 PM US Eastern Standard Time From: wmhcpa@bellsouth.net To: FarmBuddy@AOl.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Can you please send me the pictures of the "combine bib"IJ I'm very intrigued since I run an air reel and know all about the "beaver house" on the feederhouse. I have to kick mine off at each dump. I've already shot one contour master cylinder end, and I think it was at least partly due to crap getting in there and rusting the ball end out. Not sure how it's going to deflect the stuff from the cab roof into the header unless the thing runs up the window, but that might cause other problems Thanks in advance. (Note: Name and other contact information removed by FarmBuddy to maintain confidentiality.) In a related post below (CHIS is good for farmers) , some other posters did not feel that the "beaver hut" is much of a problem. I would be interested in hearing other operator opinions on this as I prepare for an up coming presentation at ASABE. It will take your support adn that of many farmers to get a CHIS Combine _ Header Interface Standard adopted by the major manufacturers.
 

turbo

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Good luck! I bet it never happens. Good headers sell combines. If a company has a good head they want to sell it with a combine. Not to put on someone elses combine. No I do not like beaver huts as you call them.
 

FarmBuddy

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Turbo, I agree, it will not be easy to accomplish, but I'd bet that the CHIS - Combine Interface Standardization does happen eventually, because of the basic logic and backing of many modern farmers petitioning for CHIS. Debris build up on top of the feederhouse is just one of 8-10 problems that we are trying to address or eliminate via CHIS. (See link below.) We see its availability as one of the first steps toward the adoption of CHIS. It is the first step in a long 5- 10 year journey which has now begun. It seems to me that any manufacturer, worth their salt, does make a superior header, they would then have sales into the entire combine market, without having to design and develop adapters for 5-6 different makes or configurations. There are many universities, research and development firms and shortline header manufacturers creating new headers for the collection of bio-mass materials. The safety and success of new bio-mass collection systems will be improved and more affordable if new headers can be attached easily to a wider variety of combines and forage harvesters. During the past 50 years, each combine manufacturer has developed different configurations to attach their headers to their combine feederhouse. Gradually they have become very similar but somewhat complex with the addition of hydraulics and more electrical connections and sensors. The basic feederhouse picture frame sizes are now within 7% of being the same width. Unfortunately for machinery dealers and farmers, there is still no uniformity between the various makes regarding the feederhouse frame size, locking pins, drive shafts, hydraulic drives, electrical interface or even the interface with transport trailers. Expensive and cumbersome adapters must be purchased and installed to interchange various headers on different combines or to set headers on transport trailers. Creating and adopting an ASABE _ ISO header interface standard will make it easier and safer for farmers to use a variety of special headers. A proposed standardization of shipping brackets will also make it safer to load, secure and transport large headers on transport trailers between various test sites and bio mass collection areas. This proposal is covered in detail in ASABE paper 05-5008. It also includes suggestions for the evolution of balanced centerline header drives. As we plan for better success in the future, provisions should also be made for standardized up front attachment of seeding systems and sprayer attachments. Positioning the planter units and spray booms out front, like a header will make auto guidance repeatability for ag equipment truly feasible. The benefits to farmers and the 25 x 25 project would be similar to ASAE standards already in place for tractor PTO, 3 Point hitch, as well as tractor-to-implement standards for electrical and hydraulic interfaces. History shows that ASAE provided a valuable service by creating tractor to implement standards for 3 point hitch and PTO systems during the 1900s. That has made it relatively easy and convenient to match various implements including various colors of graincarts, behind different makes of tractors. The same is true of the SAE standards that make it convenient to attach semi-trailers to truck-tractors. Also there is an industrial standard for skid steer attachments. But the grain harvesting industry, which is arguably the most important step in the food production and bio mass collection cycle, does not have a standard for interfacing various headers onto the front of combines or securing them onto transport trailers. Please voice your support through your ag dealers and manufacturing representatives or send comments and contributions to Farm Buddy Co PO Box 647 Columbus, IN 47202-0647. Also, if you or your farm group wants to know more about this CHIS proposal, I do have a presentation that I can give or send to you. The initial proposal is also available through ASABE link below.