Thanks for your reply. FYI, my neighbors combine is equipped with duals, 4WD, 3rd lift cylinder and he's running an 8rn cornhead; - I thought he was going to go with a 12 row. As far as common sense is concerned, well, let's just say his 1688 has 2800 engine hours and looks almost like new; - not a dent on it that I could see.