Combines What countries are the new Gleaner s sold inIJ

Gleaner of course is sold in the USA and Canada. Don't know about Mexico as at one time conventionals were going to be made there. (Maybe you can tell me about that if you know) They're sold in Argentina and Brazil since Agco got involved. Don't know about before. Alot of different South American combine companies are either extinct or absorbed by multinationals I guess. Don't know of any old Allis Chalmers tractors there though there may be some. I only know or Fahr and Deutz ,and Massey in the Agco heritage, so I don't know if Gleaners would have been built under license or imported.Gleaners have been sold in Australia since AC days I think. Don't know about New Zealand . English Gleaners were advertised in NZ ag magazine at one time(5000). Not sold in Britain anymore.I think the company there was sold to Bamfords. Anyway, they replaced them with Volvo. Some sites if you're interested: www.agcoallis.com.ar_ (click on the middle box marked 'presen gif' )and click on cosechadoras on next page. www.massey.com.br scroll down click on produtos on bottom. Then go to colheitadeiras. www.agco.com.au_ Agco Australia Pacific Gleaner N's were trialed in Britain or Europe in the Deutz Allis days, but as far as I know they weren't sold there. Saw write up in English equipment magazine. Claas, New Holland, John Deere, Deutz Fahr, Massey,laverdra and some others are well established and built for European conditions. Not completely sure if all of this is right,but it's my understanding.

Thank you for the information I will look at these sites. I know nothing about the Gleaner's that were built in Mexico I am curious about them myself.

Back in the Allis-Chalmers days (and before NAFTA),Gleaner l's (or l2's, can't remember) were produced in Mexico for a short time for tariff breaks in Central and South America. Some parts were imported from The USA, but as much as possible was built in Mexico. When the project didn't pan out, some of the Mexican l's were exported to The USA to pay for the components supplied from Independence. If I remember correctly the easiest way to identify these combines is the 2 piece cab windshield. The cab was built in Mexico where curved glass was not available, so the design was modified to use flat glass. As for Europe, a few rotaries (about 6) were sent to France for evaluation. I actually think they were N7's because Deutz-Fahr did not at that time build anything with that much power. The technician who did most of the work over there said the machines kind of embarrassed the Deutz-Fahr people who could not believe the low losses attained by the rotary. Then things went sour for Deutz-Allis and the project ended.

Thank you for the information that is very interesting. I did not know antything about the Gleaner's that were built in Mexico. By the way what is the l4 that I have heard aboutIJ Is it just an l3 with a few extrasIJ

Bluestem, If I remember correctly from my days when I had Gleaners, the l4 was the l3 built in Mexico. K.A.

You are correct about the l 4's being built in Mexico. There were just a few of them built. I saw one at the 3-I show in Garden City, Kansas. Must have been in the late 80's or 1990. They had a Cummins engine in it. Everything else was much the same as the l 3's. Price was very competitive. The timing was just not right.

Thank you for the information I have never seen an l4 Gleaner. l3s are rare where I live as well but there are absolutly tons of l2s around my area. I would imagine that an l4 would almost be a collectors item.

Bluestem, I can remember seeing only one l4 here in KS. and that was on a dealer's lot. It sat there for a long time, then one day it was gone, never heard where it went. K.A.

If you have seen one then you have seen one more than I have. They must be all but obsolete.

Quality was the worst problem with l4's from Mexico. Poor workmanship, bad welds, shafts unaligned and killing bearings ... A little quality control could have made a huge difference there.