Combines What motor does an 8010 have in itIJ

[farmert]

10.5 l Eveco 375hp 25 bulge 40 more while unloading for a total of 440 availalbe constantly Eveco is one of the largest diesel engine manufactures in the world

 

[John_W]

I think the engine maker is spelled Iveco. It is part of the whole Fiat-CaseNewHolland Global lashup. The also make heavy trucks sold in many parts of the world.

 

[larryNCKS]

Quite frankly, I think the CDC engine is an overrated, fuel guzzling piece of poorly designed iron!!!! And I've had or have several of these. I also have an Iveco on an irrigation system. It is a sound engine and it isn't a fuel hog like the CDC.

 

[George_2]

Actually the C series 8.3 liter Cummins would be too small for an 8010. The engine to compare with is the M series 11 liter Cummins engine. How has the M series performed. I do know the C series burns more fuel than the old IH 466, but then it is a bigger engine (505 ci vs 466 ci).

 

[RamRod]

I have had 2 Gleaner R72's with the M11, and have had no problems with them, but they are only average for fuel efficiency.

 

[Rotor_Man]

My only reservation concerning the iveco engine is parts avalibility and price. My neighbor had a newer NH conventional combine with an iveco engine. A rubber air pipe elbow split open and dusted out the engine before he discovered it. This was mid harvest,so his first thought was to get a reman engine and get the combine back in the field. Big shock,no remans avalible, It was buy a new engine or rebuild the old one from parts. He rebuilt it from parts and found everything was 2-3 times the price of Cummins parts. Some of the numbers he tossed at me were $2000 for a camshaft,$1600 for a starter motor,and nothing was stocked locally,so time was lost in shipping. There are area industrial and truck dealers using the iveco engines,and stocking parts,but NH refused to help him cross reference truck_industrial parts to ag. This engine was a major reason for that combine being replaced by a 2188 that next winter. I know we are talking some difference in hp,but from the Case IH catalog,a reman cummins 505 sells for roughly twice the price of a reman 466 IH and a new iveco(no remans avalible) sells for atleast twice what a reman Cummins sells for. I know it makes sense for Fiat to use their own engines,but if they price them too high,they shoot themselves in the foot as far as keeping loyal customers. I hope they see the light and get the engine parts prices in line with Cummins,IH and Cat.

 

[G_Man]

It probably won't matter whether you prefer a Cummins or Iveco engine in your combine_tractor or truck. Check out The EEA(European Engine Alliance) and who owns it. Equal shares Iveco, Cummins and CNH. I reckon that makes it a 2_3 Fiat owned outfit! EEA was formed to develop the next generation of diesel engines for the global market. These are the engines that McCormick use (BetaPower) and they are badged Iveco or Cummins in some other applications now. The next generation of Cummins and Iveco will only differ in name.

 

[farmert]

excellent point I notice my 8010's engine doesn't say Iveco on the top as they used to. Have heard CNH want ivecos in the steiger tractors as well

 

[JHEnt]

Some NH_CaseIH tractor models already have EEA design engines. The CNH brands have a webbing reinforced engine block while the version sold to McCormick and others do not. I think that if you had any experience in trying to get assistace from Cummins no one would want one of their engines. They are perfectly willing to help when on your bill but while under warranty they will not admit to any problem without dragging things out for several months. Secondly while the mechanical pump version of the 8.3l that CaseIH used in combines was ussually trouble free there is nothing but problems with the CAPS pump version (the QSX and QSC engines). The basic pump itself is the primary fault but electronic troubles so far are a nightmare on alot of them. These engines are built by CDC so CaseIH and NH dealers are solely responsible for serviceing them, but I have also heard of troubles from trucks with the same pump system on the straight Cummins branded engines.

 

[G_Man]

I notice that the new Agco RT tractors are specced with the structural (webbed) block version of the EEA designed Cummins B6.7 engine. Interesting - CNH use SISU engines in Steyr_CS and Agco using EEA Cummins!