Combines What our Case dealer told us

Can't help a bit to verify this or not but when you go back to the 503_early 915 era,It would seem that ease of hauling was one of the factors that held IHC combine sales down..

I just read in a farm magazine this week that the 8010 and 7010 will be available this year in a limited production, rated as a Class 8 and Class 7 combine. The 2388 and 2366 will be continued, rated as a Class 6 and Class 5 combine. From experience I can tell that if we custom harvester think we need those machines, we will still find a way to haul them. Right now we're hauling a MacDon and a 470 lexion on one trailer. If we'd drop the MacDon, we would be able to haul a 480 lexion on a trailer. But that would require to build a different trailer and haul the header behind on a separat trailer, meaning another big investment. Since the 480 lexion still has the highest capacity of all, the other manufacturers will do anything in their power to compete.

What is the weight on your trailer axles and the weight of your combine now. I assume the problem with a bigger machine will be overloading the trailer axles with a heavier machine. I thought maybe you could haul an 8010 on triaxle trailer with a 15 ft. spread between 1st and last axle on trailer and still put the head up front.

Green Envy, I sure hope you're right. I do not need bigger and heavier combines to haul around. K.A.

My boss and foreman had simlar thoughts on the new combines. 2 tridems T800 with aluminum box each pull one combine (2388) on double axl trailer but the trailer is alsmost too well balanced and transfers very little weight to the truck, so the combine and trailer are close to the limit per axle. The other 2 get put on a double combine trailer behind a semi but even that is too much for a legal load. Even with the 7010, which I believe I saw was 33 or 34,000 lbs, all new spread axle trailers and probably all semis would be required And they heard that with the bin extensions up, it will be too tall to go down the road or might catch power lines. They have no interst in in the AFX combines at this time.

Right now we have 53' trailers with a tandem and spread axle. The MacDon sits in front of the combine, leaving all the combine weight on the trailer axles. With the lexion 470s we were grossing real close at 80.000 lbs and maxed out the axle weight limits on the trailer, while the tractor tandems were too light. They weighed only around 20.000 lbs., while the spread axle was carrying about 18.000, if I remember right. Now lets do the math. The rear of the trailer with the combine on weight 53.000 lbs. If a person would built a shorter combine trailer with just a set of spread axles and get the combine as close to the tractor as possible. The spread axles would carry 40.000 lbs. I would have to put another 13.000 onto the tractor tandems, getting them up to 33.000 lbs. But the shorter trailer without the header on will be much lighter. For this difference I can haul a heavier combine than a 470 lexion. Then a person could put the header on a separat trailer behind the combine trailer, still have everything together and could be legal.

You can haul pretty heavy combines behind a tandem truck, too. The combine trailer needs to have spread axles and be long enough to transfer 10.000 lbs to the pintle hook of the truck. That gives you a gross trailer weight of 50.000lbs. If this trailer weighs 10.000lbs. you could load a 40.000lbs combine on it.

The shorter trailer could only be 28.5 ft. long if your going to pull another trailer (28.5 ft.)for a header behind. Have you ever seen a 28.5 ft trailer with a 10 ft. spreadIJ If it works I am looking for one. I want to be able to haul a 37000 lb. combine.

Why can this combine trailer be only 28.5', if you pull it behind a semi tractorIJ

Isn't there a pretty short limit on the legal length of a pup (which your header trailer would be),or is ag equipment automatically exemptIJ I've seen rigs set up this way, and it makes sense, but I thought the law might be looking the other way.