Thanks Big Truck, I knew it was out there just couldn't get the title right. I doubt if I get time to do pictures anytime soon.I need to get things ready to head to Colo. this week. We got another .45 inches of rain here last night that brings the EC. Il. total to 9.5-11 inches in July. I guess ruling out disease that "rain makes grain" and we can raise more corn on the high ground in a wet year than on the whole field in a dry year.