Combines Why can t AGCO see the big pictureIJ

Here's why I want to know this stuff: I currently run a C-IH 2366 and trade machines every year. I hope to never have to give up the IH, but if they go the New Holland route with the new machines I will switch brands (had a NH, never again). My next pick would be a Gleaner. We have 3 dealers within 30 miles, and probably a total of 10 within 100 miles. The issue is that with me trading every year I do not want to have to perform a bunch of mods to get optimum performance. I get what I feel is optimum performance from my IH's, so if you Gleaner operators can tell me that a stock AGCO can perform as well or better than an IH or Deere, then that's what I need to know.

GEEE brandon why didn't you say so in the first place, If you trade every year why did you even mention the 14 year old r6, did you think AGCO was still producing the same combineIJ GET real or at least GET educated to what the current model has to offer before you go off and make a statment like " when is agco going to see the big picture" I'll bet you don't have the foggest idea about the difference between an r6 and r62, SO I suggest you visit you local AGCO Gleaner dealership and let them tell you how the r62 and the r72 will send your case back to barn for a few mods. Besure to notice how easy it would be to work on if you had to....You know Iwas looking at the new case at the farm show the other day and I am afraid I would be just like you if i owned one .......trade every year befor i had to work on it.....

Body of message: Brandon - It is my opinion that the more adverse the conditions, the more the Gleaner will shine over the Axial Flow. The problem with All longitudinaly mounted rotors is the crop has to make a bend going into the rotor - and that's where the roping problems occur. Gleaners feed directly into the rotor_threshing area in a wide, thin mat and is threshed before it has to change directions. They are designed to be the best of both worlds - they will thresh tough crops as well as a conventional and have the superior separation capacity that you are used to with your Axial. About the only thing I would INSIST upon if you trade each year is to make the dealer switch any reverse bars on the rotor to forward bars. We have found that to be the biggy. I think you would be pleasantly suprised by Gleaner's performance in comparison to red and green. And to top it all off, you have a whole bunch of ffart smellers (sorry, that should have been "Smart fellers"!) right here on Gleaner Talk for product support - free of charge for the first 4,000 hours and after that the fee is substantial! Be sure to let us know when that new Gleaner arrives.... Best of luck!

Sorry Tom

Gee, the reason I mentioned the R6 on this message was that is was just the most recent posting about a machine that needs mods to perform acceptably. There are many other postings down the line which refer to the current models. You're right, I don't know Gleaner combines up and down, but a few differences that come to mind between an R6 and the current model are P1 vs. P3 processor, Allis engine vs. Cummins engine, different cabs, fewer moving parts on R62. That's all that come to mind in the 2 minutes that it took me to write this, but not bad considering I never have even run a Gleaner combine. My questions were intended to get some real advice and information, which I did from the other posters, unlike the ridiculous statements you made. Not sure what you're talking about when you say the "new" Case combines. The design has been exactly the same since 1995 and is very proven. In fact, the basic design has been in place since the late 70's (just like the Gleaner) and there are machines with 5000 hours going strong.