Combines Will there be a new JD class 8 combineIJ

[SilverTurnedGreen]

My dealer says that Deere will be intorducing a new Class 8 machine for the fall of 2004. Actually, wouldn't the 9880 fall in this categoryIJ I realize that it's just a 9750 with more power, but at 465 horsepower I would think that it would be considered to be a Class 8 machine.

 

[mo]

Deere will be out with it as soon as they find someone to copy it from.

 

[Coors_light]

Resting or watching the marketIJ 75% of the combine industry is class 6 and and combines. The 9880 was not powered with a 12.5l (465hp, which also includes boost) to give it more capacity (structural changes required for that),it was givient his power due to Euro harvest conditions (wheat 3-4' tall @ 200+ bu_ac at 20+% moisture). The 9750 was unable to effectively spread the heavy Euro crop residue with its uni type sreader system and be a solid performer. Therefore, many other well established combine mfg's continue with a chopper_chaff spreader configuration for efficiency reasons. It doesn't take 465hp for Deere's class 6 and 7 competitors to operate within ideal_optimal range!

 

[nod]

First of all yes there will be a class 8 combine released. Also as demand continues to rise for a class 5 machine it also will be released. Fact. I have spent the last four years conducting indepth research and spending tons of hours at combine manufacturing plants. Actually was able to run and critiqe sts prototypes. There are no other combines manufactured that even ressemble a sts. Who did they copyIJ Yes JD is slow to come out with new products but they also do not try to re-invent the wheel either. When a JD product is released it is right the first time, not continual updates and recalls like the others.

 

[Coors_light]

nod, it is extremely obvious that your comments are false. 1. If such priviledges were afforded to you you would be bound by a confidentiality agreement's gag order, not to disclose any information, including the information that you stated about class 5 and 8 Deere combine releases. Remember, there are only a few with such priviledge so it won't be too hard for Deere to track you down and impose punishment. 2. There is not enough information to be gleaned from public factory visits to result in determining a mfg's trend in development.

 

[Bundy]

Off course there are no other machines manufactured that resemble the sts. A. copyright laws would enable any other company to have a field day with JD. (Just look at the Challenger saga) B. The only design that the sts remotely resembled was the bi-rotor (with the step design) so scared witless of that, JD just came up with the big dollars, bought out the design from the guys who first developed it (some farmers in Kansas as I remember it) and shelved what I consider to be a brilliant design and concept. I really think we have all been robbed because of it. Particularly in relation to the modular concept of being able to remove the threshing module and use that area for spraying. How many farm combines in the world spend the best part of 9 or 10 months a year in the shedIJIJIJ I was fortunate enough to see the promo video put out by the designers while in the states. Does anyone have any idea what ever happened to the white(I think) prototype Case combine they fitted the bi rotor intoIJ

 

[nod]

I am in no way looking for a spitting contest. I would not of made the comments if they were not true as told to me. Majority of visits were not public factory visits. At no time was I asked or told to sign a Non-Disclosure. Print my comments out, tape them to the bottom of your key board and read it again in three years.

 

[SilverTurnedGreen]

If you peruse the "CAT" forum you'll note an individual by the nickname "FarmBuddy". This individual now works for ClaasOmaha, but he was in fact very instrumental in developing the BiRotor technology, and he could give you "firsthand" information about it. The last I heard, there is still an early BiRotor prototype combine being housed at Kincaid Equipment in Haven, Kansas; - at least there was a few years ago.

 

[Otis]

Ha Ha, so clever...

 

[SilverTurnedGreen]

Coors light, (my favorite brand) The Ag manufacturers aren't always so secretative as you may think. I had a Massey TX903 prototype in my shed back in 1981, and it was here for about 2 weeks. Massey could have cared less about anyone getting close to the machine, and I think this was thier way of persuading thier existing Massey customers from trading to another brand. The Massey engineers made it "load and clear" that they (Massey) would be introducing a rotary combine "shortly", although it wasn't until 4 or 5 years later that they actually did. Deere might be pulling the same stunt; - who knows, although my local dealer has always been correct about future product launches in the past. He says Deere will offer a Class 8 for the fall of 2004. Time will tell, I guess!