Combines 2388 or 9750

The 9750 STS is 1 class bigger than the 2388. So of course the 9750STS is bigger in terms of capacity and hp. I would stay a 2388 is a much better choice for the money. The axial flow has been around for 20+years now and are one of the most reliable rotorary. The STS has only been around for a couple years and had bugs they needed to work out. Hell, you can even crank up the hp on the 2388 and add hopper extension, and you would very well have a combine that would compete with or break the 9750. All in all, go with what you are comfortable with, not what people generally tell you what to do. Hope this helps.

GO WITH THE 2388. IT'S A PROVEN MACHINE,AND IT'S A lOT MORE ADJUSTABlE(VANE PITCH, ROTOR SPEED). DEERE lIKES TO TAlK ABOUT THE ClASS 7 STUFF, BUT THE 2388 HAS MORE SCREEN AND SEPERATING AREA THAN THE 9750STS. JUST TURN UP THE FUEl AND ADD A SET OF HOPPER EXTENSIONS AND YOU'VE GOT A BIGGER MACHINE THAN THE "ClASS 7" DEERE. PlUS I UNDERSTAND DEERE IS HAVING A SlIGHT PROBlEM WITH THE ROTOR DRIVE SYSTEM AS WEll AS THE WAY THE RASP BARS ARE HElD IN THE ROTOR. {I HEAR A SIX MONTH BACKORDER ON ROTOR DRIVE SYSTEMS) GOOD lUCK.

Benny, Both Red-Green and Salesman are trying to lead you astray. The 2388 is a good machine and the STS has had a learning curve. What crops are you going to harvest. The STS is a hands down winner in Soybeans. Especially Green Stem Soybeans. The ole adage of cranking the HP on the CaseIH and putting whopper toppers on is stupid in the long term. The rotor drive belt is the fuse on the CaseIH and the structure of the CaseIH is not designed to carry additional weight. Simply compare the frames on the two machines, and the strength of the feeder while your at it. You can see the difference. If you are interested in and STS, look at the 9650STS it will do everthing plus more than a 2388.

You might also want to consider a new 470 or 475 lexion from Cat. These machines feature all of the same ameneties as the much larger class 8 480_485 but, at a lower cost. You still will have all of the benefits that a hybrid machine has to offer. when I mean hybrid, I mean conventional threshing with twin rotary (forced) separation. These machines are the most gentle machines that a crop could be harvested by and when it comes to tough threshing, high moisture, they really accel beyond any other machine. The ability to set the threshing and separation systems independently, adjusting to crop conditions will drastically cut down the potential for grain damage. And, mechanical threshing_damage can be virtually eliminated through fingertip adjustments from threshing to cleaning systems. I personally enjoy its ability negotiate tough to thresh material and begin the separation process at the very front of the machine, where a bed of augers are typically found on other combines, the lexion as a preperation pan to shake the material back, stratifying the grain from chaff vs. mixing for maximized cleaning and the ultimate in throughput. Thus, more bang for your buck. I plan to keep ahold of my 485 for a long while.

Having run a 2388, 9650sts, R72 and 465 cat this past fall deciding which to buy I can say this: The Case design is more simple and does an excellent job in all crops. However the 2388 is the smallest of the lot. True Deere is having growing pains with the new rotor, but is higher in capacity. The 2388 is a real nice 8 row machine in corn and does real well in beans as well, but if you want to run in 180 bushel corn on hillsides or tough going or want to run a 12 row head, you better look at something other than the 2388. It's a great machine, but a little small. All these guys that talk about upping the fuel pump and adding hopper toppers is a baid aid on a broken leg. I will not spend $200,000 on a new machine to have to "soup" it up just to compete.

The 9750sts has more capacity. It's the exact same combine as the 9650sts, but with more horsepower. It is considered a Class XII (7) combine compared to a XI for the 2388_9650sts. As for the bugs and reliablility...they're selling the heck out of the STS machines, and have you ever heard of Deere not standing behind one of them. Case better get on it and get a new combine out before their backs are broken. In our area (IN),they are far superior in the green-stemmed beans, and never have to be reset when conditions change like the Axial-Flows do.

We had a 2188 and trade it for 9650 STS during winter 1999

Benny is'nt your opinion biasedIJ You do work for a deere dealer don't you.

bmoney you better do a little homework on your Roman numerals A class 7 is VII not XI and class 6 is VI not XI

I thought a lot more 9750's had been sold as compared to 9650's. I also see where a lot of guys are buying 95 and 9650 conventionals. Deere is offering great lease deals on the STS series, and that may be one reason they're leaving the lots so fast.