Combines 8070 engine kits

[kw]

We have a 7580 and 4w-220 both with cummins in them, and I think it makes a great tractor that way. Others will probably disagree, but I think it is the way to go if you are going to keep the tractor for a while. They are relatively easy, and there are several around the states who make kits. The primary one used to be Hunley sales, and their business has been bought out by another company, not sure of name, but could get it for you as a local guy has been in contact with them about repowering one of his tractors. The big downside to the cummins is the cost, when we did dads 7580 about 5 years ago the Hunley kit was around $13500, and included a NEW motor. Now the place is charging around $16000 for a remanufactured engine. Not sure what it will cost to do your motor, but by the time you buy a different Head, and do everything you should, depending on what you do yourself I would guess you will have between 5 and 10000 in it. lots of variables there though. hope this helps kirk

 

[dairyman]

Two comments. There is a company in Racine, Wisconsin that has been advertising rebuilt A-C 426 engines. Supposedly they have redesigned the head and done some other mods to make it much more fuel-efficient and better starting_lugging. last I knew only way to contact them was email: relianceworks@aol.com You can ask on the Allis page and see what the guys have to say about Reliance Works. Second, we rented a DT200A this fall when our 7040 went down. 30 year jump in technology, but the DT cab still is lacking greatly, especially if you are accustom to the 8000 series cab. We were pulling a forage harvester and visibility to the row unit was obscured by rear cab pillar. Fenders limited rearward visibility of row unit also. Door handles are halfway up door, rather than at bottom like an 8070. It was quiet at least. I really did like the forager mode on the foot pedal for chopping silage and the 32 mph transport speed was great. AGCO still needs to work on simplifying the control layout. Cab appears cluttered like an airplane cockpit, which seems to be a European hallmark (compare an old DX Deutz to your 8070 and you'll see what I mean) However, that fact that we could buy six 8050's or a dozen 7040's for the price of one DT really makes one stop and think. Good luck with your decision. The 8070 is still a pretty up-to-date tractor for 25 years old.

 

[John_W]

The outfit that bought out Hunley's repower business is call Ag Repower. I see that the Gratton Coulee tractor salvage outfit in Alberta uses DT466 engines in some of their Allis repowers.

 

[MN_Dean]

pow'r seal kits are still available through herschel adams dealers. http:__www.herschel-adams.com_ They used to really improve starting and smoke on the 426.

 

[sidekick]

Sealed Power only produces them kits every so often so be sure they are available when you need them.Instant starting and light smoke on my 220.

 

[strawwalker]

I have a 7580 with a 426 with appproximatey 200 hours since total rebuild. I had just put an engine kit in it when we had an unfortunae incident with an oil filter collapsing which caused lack of oil to the crank and spun a bearing. As a result of that it had a new block and crank and all new kits plus rebuilt from top to bottom. Since then I bought a second 7580 so I don't really need this one any longer. Would be interested in either selling you the engine or the complete tractor for a lot less than it will cost you for a new engine. let me know if you are interested. I am in Eastern Ontario.

 

[Gleamer]

I called AG REPOWER.COM for a kit to repower a White 2-180 with a 8.3 cummins. Priced to me at 19500.00. About 5000 more than I was willing and the value of the tractor wouldnt support it. But a nice 4WD 8070 or 4W220 would support the price and would spin circles around the old 426 engine and technology. Pulling out a 3208 Cat and putting in a longer in-line 6 might have been some of the price issue. Changing out a 6 for a 6 would be much easier job. We traded for a 6195 White with the 8.3 cummins and love the engine. Our dealer services a 4W220 that has a 8.3 repower and customer is pulling 30' equipment rather well but had some tranny issues at first till they turned it down a bit. Keep this in mind, dont pull harder than it was really designed for.. Good luck

 

[Brian]

We replaced an 8070 (MFWD powershift) with an RT155A (MFWD, CVT, front and cab suspension, etc...) The RT seems to have no trouble pulling what an 8070 did. I'm sure DT 200-220 would be better for some things but RT155A seems pretty apples to apples when pulling. BTW, we are are averaging about 3.1 gph with RT and I bet 8070 probably took that much idling.

 

[Nobul]

Dairyman, I hear you on the cost factor. That is why we are looking to rebuild or re-power rather than replace. BUT, at 9000 hours and a bit under power for the fall chisel there is a front axle, powershift transmision and rear end to consider as well. Rebuild cost is only one payment plus interest on replacement, but a 23 year old machine. Tough call right now. Rob.

 

[ajco]

Call new equipment co Aylmer Ont. 519 773 5467