Combines 860 V 8 vs 8820 Titan II

how do they compare in 50-60 bushel wheatIJ

Close to a horse a piece. 8820 may out horsepower the 860, but the 8820 will start throwing it out the rear when it starts to outrun the 860. I've run them in the same field and it was equal for the most part. If the 860 had more power it would have been bigger than the 8820 , especially in the grain saving department. Just my opinion.

The 8820 is a bigger and better built combine period. 860 has a 60" cylinder...8820 has a 65" cylinder. More H.P on the 8820. longer straw walkers also on the 8820 II. Cab bigger on 8820, although still smaller compared to the newer combines. 860 has electric_hydralic thumb swith for header, 8820 still has lever on steering column. We ran an 8820 series 11, and in 5 years had one small breakdown for 20 minutes (key stock get loose and slip out on return auger on top). We ran a new 860 for 2 years, and it was broken down for a mininum of 20 minutes a day. As for actual capacity, the 8820 was on average 20 % faster but at the end of a few weeks, would do about 3-1 of the 860, because of numerous breakdowns of the Massey. Our 8820 is still running about 15 miles from us, and the guy that bought it said that it still runs like a top. Our 860 that we owned is about 60 miles away...at the combine wreckers, along with rows and rows of Massey combines, compared to a few John Deere's.

Well said!

Thats about what I was thinking. I did not know the 8820 was a 65" cylinder. I thought it was just 60" like the massey. Massey does have the rethrasher separate, as opposed to the 8820 which returns to the cylinder. not sure how much capacity that frees up, but it would help. Massey has 3 sieves also. JD has 2. I was thinking the 860 sieves had more area also. not sure. Just talked to a mechanic who has worked on the masseys since they came out. He said to bring the 8820 to the field and we'll see!!! lol. got to love that.

The 8820TII will outpeform the 860; - hands down and in any conditions. I traded an immaculate 860 with only 1260 hours in on a new 8820 years ago and thier had to be a minimum of 15% overall increased capacity over the Massey, although the massey was relatively reliable. The only crop where the two would come close to equal was in 60 to 80 bushel barley. I would choose the Deere, although I now have a CaseIH.

If the 860 Hydro's would have had the same amount of HP as an 8820 T II There is no way an 8820 would outrun an 860. Of course thats a "what if" question. And I never said an 860 didn't break down alot. I was just saying capacity wise. Well that 8820 i was in the field with didn't out run my 860, unless he wasn't pushing it at allIJ don't know, didn't care.

The first thing you do if you buy a massey witht he 3 seives is throw 2 of them away and put in an airfoil chaffer from harvest services (and I think lowen makes a kit too) Makes a HUGE difference.. 8820's mean nothing to a v8 760 or 860 with the pump turned up abit... theres a guy in southern manitoba put a turbo on his V8- 540 from a truck engine and puts alot of combines to shame.

I hear ya. I've had more than one person tell me that a late model 860 V-8 hydro will cut wheat with about anything, including an 8820, 9600, etc. I know that seems crazy, but I've heard it from guys that run JD's and Gleaner's. Even had a former massey_case-ih mechanic tell me that a good 860 would outcut his 1680 in wheat and come close to his 2388. I don't know about that, but he has been working on and running machines since the mid 70's.

Neighbors run a 850 and a 9500 and say there is very little difference in capacity.