Combines 9010 or bigger IJ

Hmmm, good question. You have to wonder, the 8010 as it stands now probably could not handle more hp unless there are some wholesale changes in other areas as well. I wonder what the combine they were working on before the merger looked likeIJIJ What are agco and deere working onIJ Deere can't handle much more with their machine, and agco - well, does it matterIJ

I seen the prototype in 97 and again in 98 near the az proving ground on the dunn farm. It had 30.5 32 tires all the way around, auger swung to either side, big cummin's engine i think 500QSX header all hydraulic drive, front wheel steer, 8010 style cab, large diameter rotor,huge hopper. I didn't have a camera or i would have got some photo's. That's the way it goes. AZCUTTER

I hope they stick with the same design just bigger Also how about the weight of the machinesIJ won't there be a stopping pointIJIJIJIJ not alot of good a combine is if its way to heavy in soft conditions... (just my thoughts) I dont' want them jumping around to other designs we might look like deere CTS...STS....WTS...BS haha

I remember hearing about that combine. The unloader was mounted central in the grain tank so the combine could unloaded from the lH or the RH side. Think the design got shelved with the merger of New Holland. You would think that the AFX8010 (or similar) would be a big enough combine for anyone. I have seen them run consistently and don't know how you keep the grain away fast enough. The owner of a AFX8010 needs far more invested in infrastructure (labor,trucks-trailers,tractors-buggies,elevator-bins) to handle the grain than the investment in the combine itself. How could someone pencil out a larger combine if it sits for any length of time in the field waiting to be unloadedIJ

I also saw the prototype, in 2000 as I recall. It was scrapped when the decision was made to go with what New Holland had in the works for several years with the CR_CX combine, and to make a differentiated version with a single rotor, the 8010. A few concepts were borrowed from the big Case prototype I am told by qualified sources, such as the returns system (which has thus far not proven successful) and the CVT rotor drive, and header drive system. This is an interesting topic. I wonder the effect of bumping the 8010 to 460+ hp. Would the drives handle it, and is there enough rotor capacity to be able to effectively utilize that powerIJ Certainly the single rotor combines will reach the processing limit long before the Cat will, but what could they do outside of lenghtening the rotor to gain capacityIJ My contention is that it will be incredibly difficult to exceed, let alone match, the mark set by the 590R with a single rotor processing system. But that's what new hot shot engineers are for. In any case, the 8010 is far closer than the STS is.

The coal mining industry keeps saying the same thing. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Here's something else to think about these big combines. I've been told that the custom cutters aren't buying and transporting these 8010's(and other colors also) because the DOT is creating havoc when hauling these big units across state lines. Is there any truth to thisIJ

I dont remember who told me but supposely the 8010 is designed for up 600 hp. If it will handle it is another question. But I beleive when the first 1480 came out I think was that like 190 hp and they have punped that to 330 on the 06s. Think about it when I first got my 1480 if somebody would have said in 28 years they would have 450 hp combines and 18r cornheads I would have laughed. So can they run 8010 machines for 20 more years only time will tell! The scary part is back in the late 70s you could buy the whole machine with all the heads cheaper than a corn head is now. And were getting less for a bushel of corn now. Go figure!

Its drive train may handle 600hp, but the rest of the combine sure can't. The rotor and cage are the same as the 2388 with a slight increase to the open grate area only. Actually, the rotor in an 8010 is slightly shorter in order to fit within the New Holland CR frame. Once you begin expanding the rotor diameter beyond 30-inches you have gone beyond the relm of practical feasibility as far as power is concerned. In order for a 35 or 40-inch rotor to achieve comparable tip speed as a 30-inch diameter rotor the horsepower required to achieve that tip speed (the most critical attribute of the entire separation process) compounds exponentially over those requirements necessary to run the 30-inch diameter rotor. Therefore, it might take nearly 600hp for a 40-inch diameter rotor to achieve comparable tip speed as a 30-inch rotor, no matter the rotor rpm. And you guys thought the thoses increases in horsepower caused by powerchips were of benefit. You have no idea!

If you look at the Euro model of the 8010 it has been up graded to 405hp since current 8010 will take 16 row head just needs more Cleaning Area everyone think it takes more rotor but i think more sieve area on 8010 would make a machine even to 590