From what I have ever seen, is that JD folks truthfully believe that whatever JD has out at the current time is the absolute best, and they will argue for years on it. Not saying that JD doesnt have a good product, but they can be beat and will be beat in the future. Just like the 8000 series tractors versus the Magnums. NO CONTEST HERE, the Magnum will win every time. Same goes for the combine "battle". I have seen the CAT demos, and I really do believe it will outperform anything out there right now. Too bad it is a European design, would have been nice to call it our own.