Combines 9860

[TwinSilvers]

There seems to be more to capacity than cylinder width. I "demo'ed" a Claas Dominator 106 (62" cylinder) against my Deere 7720 (55" cylinder) and the Deere won easily, both in capacity and grain quality in mixed-grain and corn. Granted, the Claas had an 18" six-bar cylinder versus the Deere's 22" 8-bar cylinder but, in my opinion, those two machines should have AT lEAST been evenly matched.

 

[7720future]

I do beleive that it comes down to some simple geometry. I think you should just have to find out the area that the cylinder is in contact with the grain and concave at the same time before it is released to the walkers. I think this should give you your answer even though I havent run a combine and wouldn't know otherwise. Just a thought. Justin

 

[low_end_torque]

580R _ 585R Specifications Item Standard Metric Pre-Separation Type APS with new concave setting Threshing Cylinder diameter 24 in 600 mm Cylinder width 56 in 1,420 mm Pre-concave grate area 572 in2 0.37 m2 Main concave area 1,664 in2 1.07 m2 Transition Grate Area N _ A Total concave area 2,236 in2 1.44 m2 Separation Type Twin paddle rotor No. of rotors 2 Rotor length 102 2600 mm Rotor Diameter 21.6 in 550 mm Rotor Grate Opening 150 150 Separation area 5,735 in2 3.70 m2 Total Threshing_Separation Area 7,971 in2 5.14 m2 Cleaning System Type JET STREAM Total cleaning area 7905 in2 5.1 m2 Cleaning fan 6 turbine fans Electric sieve adjustment Standard 3-D sieve Optional Residue Management Chaff Spreader Standard Straw Chopper MAVr Engine Caterpillar C-12 Horsepower (rated) 400 hp (299 kW) Horsepower (bulge) 431 hp (321 kW) Capacities Grain tank 330 bu 11,800 l Unloading rate 3.3 bu_sec Fuel tank 210 gal 800 l Tracks _ Wheels MTS with Suspension 585R Drive axle capacity 24 t Mudhogr Rear Axle, 1250 ccm powered - Mudhogr Rear Axle, 1800 ccm powered Optional

 

[low_end_torque]

590R Specifications Item Standard Metric Pre-Separation Type APS with new concave setting Threshing Cylinder diameter 24 in 600 mm Cylinder width 67 in 1,700 mm Pre-concave grate area 685 in2 0.44 m2 Main concave area 1,992 in2 1.28 m2 Transition Grate Area N _ A Total concave area 2,677 in2 1.73 m2 Separation Type Twin Paddle Rotor No. of rotors 2 Rotor length 102 in 2600 mm Rotor Diameter 21.6 in 550 mm Rotor Grate Opening 150 150 Separation area 5,735 in2 3.70 m2 Total Threshing_Separation Area 8,412 in2 5.43 m2 Cleaning System Type JET STREAM Total cleaning area 9,610 in2 6.2 m2 Cleaning fan 8 turbine fans Electric sieve adjustment Standard 3-D sieve Optional Residue Management Chaff Spreader Standard Straw Chopper MAVr Engine Caterpillar C-13 Horsepower (rated) 462 hp (345 kW) Horsepower (bulge) 501 hp (374 kW) Capacities Grain tank 360 bu 12,500 l Unloading rate 3.3 bu_sec Fuel tank 210 gal 800 l Tracks _ Wheels MTS with Suspension Drive axle capacity 28 t Mudhogr Rear Axle, 1250 ccm powered - Mudhogr Rear Axle, 1800 ccm powered Optional

 

[farmboy]

Those 9860's are an overated machine. If you look at the specs, they are the exact same combine from the 9660 to the 9860, all they did was up the horsepower. Go run the Cat 580R next to it, and see how they compare.

 

[TwinSilvers]

I think you're right!

 

[dakota]

I agree. The STS has a much smaller shoe than a 9610 while getting more acres done per hour with a similar sample and grain loss.

 

[Deputy_dog]

did the sieve go through the cleaning fan or the chopperIJIJIJIJPossible that the sieve frame broke and it was not caught in time...

 

[kid]

I am not sure of what happened. I just know it was a mess and the combine went to the shop.