I will vouch for "coors light", he's no salesman. All the equipment dealers I know wouldn't make statements like that. Everybody step back for a moment and think. Dealers are in the buisness buying and selling equipment. they don't run a charity, so they try to turn a profit. The selling part is self-explanitory, but they need to buy the trades. And when you buy something, you want to be able to turn around and sell it, thus green equipment is taken at a premium, especially at the CAT deader. He wants something on his lot that everybody will be interested in buying. CAT combines, like it or not, are a wildcard right now. Nobody, and that includes CAT people, knows what the future holds long term for those machines. Facts are 160+ years of stability do mean something. I'm not bashing, or horn blowing here, I'm just trying to tell you how the marketplace works. And speaking of the marketplace, I will agree that there are too many Maximizer combines on the market, but the bigger problem is that there isn't the disposal of equipment that there used to be. Years ago you would park your old tractor, combine etc in the bush, but we have 20-30 year old machines still in use. the people using them are happy, and it works for them, (and don't reply telling me how great you old machine works, I know, and I agree) but it is contributing to the problem as much as the excess of 2-3 year old trades on dealers lots. (It also speaks for the durability of the older stuff) The problem can't be pinned on one particular company, but it is a combination of company-dealer policies through the year. CAT isn't going to revolutionize the equipment industry, ever. After years of obscene margins on industrial equipment, the Ag market isn't that profitable on either side of the desk to want to stick around much longer. like it or not,(and most of you won't) that's the way it is.