Good to hear you guy's responses!!! Here's the thing though...back when (before I was born),all these companies were pretty much equal. They all had their dealers in every little farm town, and all their equipment was about the same. However, there is now ONE company left that is still owned by the same company...and that is John Deere. Somewhere along the line John Deere had to do something right. Ever notice how when Deere completely redesigns a line of equipment, that everyone seems to follow. look at the MaxEmerge planter way back when. Does the Kinze unit look familiarIJ How 'bout the WhiteIJ The new CIHIJ The FlexiCoilIJ Then the 8000 Series tractorIJ Notice how everyone else is going to the same design including the new Magnums and the AGCO tractors with the engine way up front so the tires turn within the frame. Yeah, the Genesis is different, but CNH is going to drop it. Then the 4700 sprayers. The new AgChems look like it, the new Wilmars look like it, and they've all adapted the airbag suspension system that made the 4700 a superior machine to the others when it was introduced. Now it's the Deere tine system on the combines with the "egg-shaped" rotor cage. It's definately a good concept for a horizontal rotor, and there is strong word that there will be a CNH combine, whether it be a NH or CIH, that will have tines. How is Deere's marketing department better than anyone else'sIJ Do you see a lot of advertisements that sway your opinion on a piece of machineryIJ I'll admit that they always have the best display at a farm show, but hey, they're the biggest company, the ought to. Deere sells so much because they offer very well-built products that are not inferior to any other products (I'm a consultant for the ag purchasing department for a major university. I've looked over tons of equipment of every brand over my life.). Plus when you go to a Deere dealer they All have it all, and it's the same brand and same color. This is a big deal. Plus the Deere parts and service system_support is far superior (and I mean far superior) to all the other mfg's. I'll tell you what, if you had an 8000 tractor painted orange, silver, red and silver, or whatever you'd love it. Same with an STS combine. And it works both ways. So, like I said earlier, I don't want to start a war here, but I don't understand why everyone that doesn't own a Deere "hates that company." They are a great company, and if you visit their website, their new slogan is "Solid. Stable. Still John Deere." ...And they ARE the ONlY major ag company that can say that. Hey guys, this is a great website. It's here for our benefit. I enjoy everything everyone has to say, but there's no reason to rip on a company just because it's bigger that the one you prefer. Which brings me to my biggest point. like someone else said, it's personal preference. Be proud of what YOU own. It all does the job.