Combines Case ih engineering

[scooter]

The draper head will feed better. The beans all fall onto the belt like a tree and are fed into the feeder in a straight line. Far more threshing capacity. Th new JD head looks good to me. But you still have thea auger twisting the beans in a bunch. I am a little worried about the swithces and valves operating that often and potential problem. Might not really be a problem.

 

[lumpy]

I worked for a JD dealer for many years and I was talking to a JD territory manager who has worked for Deere all his life and he had told me that Deere was the first to design and patent the rotor threshing system. He also said JD recieved royalties for many years from IH.They didn't produce the rotor at the time because it wouldn't cut the wide variety of crops that the conventional system would. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[bubs]

Good engineering comes from users of a product relaying their ideas to engineers that can incorporate them into a product. That is what we, farmers,need to be doing instead of wasting time, and frustrations on trying to figure out who slept with who forty or fifty years ago. The baby from that meeting has been changed so many times that we don't need to go back and start nursing it again. I think that Sen.Thurmond's family have accepted thier newly announced half sister in the way we need to deal with the JD-CIH history. They, to, may be half sisters but let's not waste time and money with the challenge of proofing it. The baby was real and now she is an adult. We will treat her as such and move on with welcome. There are many more issues to be deal with than the color of the paint. Farmers all bleed the same color when we hurt, and cry the same salty tears when we fail. Combines in the same thinking are sorry SOBs when they fail to do their jobs and the greatest piece of machinery made when they bring home a good crop in record time. I encourage each of my fellow farmers to share your ups and downs with your machines but remember that a combine has no feelings or soul. When it is broke it doesn't know it and when you brag on it still don't know it. Good luck, good ideas, and remember if you are drowning and a boat comes along with a person extending a helping hand, I doubt if you will hold back if the color of his boat is not to your liking. Success only comes when we share the load. Seasons Greetings to each and everyone of you, both the user and the maker.

 

[Ilnewholland]

Wow, that was deep! Hope you have a Merry Christmas also. Ilnewholland p.s. I still like my combine yellow and my tractors orange........just kidding!

 

[iaremec]

it does the job you bought it for ,dom't it. the farmers and mechanics has to feed engineers on needs or there probably wouldn't be that much improvement. i have saw problems persist for close to 20 years in ih and case combines. that is what makes job frustrating. sometimes computerization on equipment gets a little too complex. happy holidays.

 

[George_2]

The story I heard from a IH territory rep going around with the first Axial Flow in our area in 1977 (at the time the 1400 series were introduced) was that IH purchased patent rights from John Deere on a couple of key patents pertaining to the impellor (elephant ears). He indicated it was a cash up front deal with no royalties

 

[dakota]

I've seen the flex draper running. Besides the even feeding of any draper head, the head is not totally rigid anymore. Through a pivot, a few feet away from the feeder, each side of the header can independently go up or down, following the gage wheels. Cutting terrases and short crops on uneven ground is much enhanced.

 

[Buckshot]

I don't think they sold a patent to IH for the rotary concept itself. I do know they developed a rotary called the Roto-Thrash or something like that, which was sold to a company in Canada and a few were built. Maybe they sold some other patent to IH or had something else that I am not aware of. Deere has a lot of good ideas, but they often just adapt existing ideas, make a few small improvements on it and usually do very well that way. After all, John Deere himself didn't invent the plow. He just changed it to make it work better. They're not always the best innovator, but I would argue that they are the best adaptor. Bear in mind that I am biased to the point of stupidity as I have always had Deere, but I do believe this to be true. In any case, a very safe and happy Christmas to all of you!

 

[ImpartialOne]

As an Axial-Flow owner who's extensively "demo'ed" an STS, I would have to disagree with you; - the STS is very different from a CaseIH, starting with the tri-feeding system and ending with the lobe-grating system for a more "pull and release" seperation action. I like my 2388AFX, though, and the price was far better.

 

[John_W]

The idea of a rotary combine or threshing machine has been kicking around for 100 years or more. Some old pull combines had rotary separators. The folks that started the Gleaner combine company back in the 1920's experimented with some rotary combines that look remarkably similar to the modern Gleaners. Also, corn shellers were basically rotary type machines and combines shell a lot of corn in the USA. Much work was also done looking for a rotary shoe to replace the shaker chaffer_sieve arrangement that was not sensitive to being level, but no one has been able to figure out a better way to do the job so far.